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leapinlew:

--- Quote from: FrizzleFried on June 23, 2011, 06:08:34 pm ---
--- Quote from: leapinlew on June 23, 2011, 04:35:08 pm ---So let me make sure I got your side of the story right. We should shun RAM controls even though people are getting their orders? We should be just as vicious as you are until EVERY LAST CENT (as you put it) is repaid. And then what? Then all of a sudden RAM is ok? How are you going to verify every last penny has been repaid?

I think your mixing up your real identity with an alter ego who's job it is to protect arcade enthusiasts. Thanks for protecting us SuperArcade Man

Let me know when it's safe to order!

And for the record: I'm not saying it's safe to order from RAM. I'm saying order with caution. The company has a bad track record.

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How long have you been here Lew?  How many times have you seen RAM pull this SAME ---That which is odiferous and causeth plants to grow---?  

Don't you feel somewhat obligated to point out the history of this company Lew?   Wouldn't you feel even a little bad if someone contacted you in 6 months and said "Lew,  based on a post of yours it pushed me over the edge and I decided to spend $X with RAM and got screwed"?

Will I know when ALL people have been paid off?  Nope... but I am sure I'll get wind of when some of the cockpit victims get restitution... that's when I'd be convinced that "whoever" is running RAM is serious about getting people paid... not until then.

The fact that Dave/RAM fraudulently ADVERTISED, SOLD and COLLECTED MONEY for a phantom product (SW Cockpit) appalls me...

...and the fact that he LIED to more than one person stating "It's READY TO SHIP" to get MORE MONEY from these folks... well,  I'll leave it at that.

If you folks want to do business with a company that would pull that kind of ---That which is odiferous and causeth plants to grow---... so be it.  I for one WILL NOT. 

PS: I've still not seen a shred of evidence that Dave's still not running the show.

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We both know all the evidence as it is available today. You feel that doing business with RAM controls under any circumstance is a bad idea. I feel that doing business with RAM is acceptable if you take precautions. That just about sums it up.

The last thing I want to do is be put in a position of trying to defend RAM controls. I just think that since we see a few orders being delivered, they deserve a chance.

If someone does things based on something someone online says, they have bigger problems than not getting a Star Wars yoke.
rikitiki:

--- Quote ---I feel that doing business with RAM is acceptable if you take precautions. That just about sums it up.


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wow really?
Im sure those that were lied to and still waiting on refunds/products will be happy to hear that.

Im sure that getting out some small orders of instock parts and 10 dollar tubes of nyogel those guys will be paid off in no time. :laugh2:

and then we can all restore our game in a new magical world of lollipops and gumdrops free of the RamEffect.

its not just phantom cockpits there were also suposely SCREENED Lunar Lander and Missile Command Control Panels
that were "in stock and ready to ship"

FYI Dave called me around the time he was posting for those looking for information and advise on how to screen them and I dont think he was any where nears where we was claiming and later proved him wrong and full of...
http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=175338
dan_ram:
Lets make the distinction...  Dave lied to a lot of people, myself included. I have not lied to anyone. If I don't have something ready to ship I wont take your money, period! I cannot take care of everyone who is owed instantly that is true, and I have been completely honest about that fact.  I am however making progress towards resolving the problems of the past. Just today I have taken care of two people who ordered products yesterday and today and I have two boxes packed and ready to go out tomorrow that will take care of two more people who are owed something from the past. Those two packages take care of another $500 in past orders. Everyone who is ordering new is getting their stuff and people who are owed from the past are getting taken care of. This is a process and will take time.

Dan

scofthe7seas:

--- Quote from: rikitiki on June 23, 2011, 08:31:50 pm ---
Im sure those that were lied to and still waiting on refunds/products will be happy to hear that.


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Who are these people? Specifically. Who. I haven't seen ONE single person who has been owed something say they haven't been treated fairly, or that they have been ignored, or that they are in ANY way dissatisfied with how things are going. Not a SINGLE one in this thread. Are these ripped off people just holding their tongues, being polite? The only detractor I saw who was legitimately owed anything was ChadTower, and he came out of his situation satisfied.
jimmy2x2x:

--- Quote from: dan_ram on June 23, 2011, 08:52:10 pm ---Lets make the distinction...  Dave lied to a lot of people, myself included. I have not lied to anyone. If I don't have something ready to ship I wont take your money, period! I cannot take care of everyone who is owed instantly that is true, and I have been completely honest about that fact.  I am however making progress towards resolving the problems of the past. Just today I have taken care of two people who ordered products yesterday and today and I have two boxes packed and ready to go out tomorrow that will take care of two more people who are owed something from the past. Those two packages take care of another $500 in past orders. Everyone who is ordering new is getting their stuff and people who are owed from the past are getting taken care of. This is a process and will take time.

Dan



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You are doing an admirable job, please keep it up.
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