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| FrizzleFried:
--- Quote from: yotsuya on June 15, 2011, 03:33:14 pm ---I'd be happy to vouch for Dan. I got in contact with him after some people here talked about dealing with the new ownership at RAM. I contacted him and he was very polite and reasonable, assuaging any concerns I might have had. Although I previously had no intention of dealing with RAM and Dave, I gave Dan a chance based on other people's recent experiences here as well as my interactions with him. I was upfront with my concerns and expectations, and he was very clear about what had happened previously as well as his plans for making things right. I placed an order, and that day I received a tracking number. My stuff came two days later, but there was an issue (not Dan's fault- UPS punctured the box and damaged an overlay). I contacted him about it, and he had a replacement out to me that same morning (even though he probably could have told me to file a claim with UPS). Within the span of 5 business days, I received two shipments from Dan. He's a good guy, and I wouldn't hesitate to do business with him again. He's in a tough position, but based on our conversations, I can tell he wants to make things right. Just my $0.02. --- End quote --- You are part of the problem. To do business with RAM before EVERY CENT has been paid back is a slap to the communities face. Thanks! |
| FrizzleFried:
--- Quote from: dan_ram on June 15, 2011, 08:07:05 pm ---If you want to quote numbers you probably should make sure that your numbers are somewhat close. I think the actual number from the documentation I have, the conversations I have had with people, and the data provided on the KLOV database is somewhere in the 6-8 cabinet range. Probably in the $15 - $20K range. At least one of those people and perhaps two of them were successful in getting charge backs. I am aware of the amount of money involved and I can understand that people are upset, but I think it would be better to try to find ways to help all of those people at this point. --- End quote --- Again...bravo... when that happens, come back and lets get a conversation going. Until that happens. YOUR PRODUCT AND YOUR COMPANY IS TAINTED and anyone giving you a SINGLE CENT is contributing to the problem. They are dealing with a company that has STOLEN MONEY FROM THE COMMUNITY. Pay everyone back for the money/product that Dave stole from them... THEN come back and talk. To do anything less is a slap in the face. |
| FrizzleFried:
--- Quote from: shrunkenmaster on June 16, 2011, 02:59:04 am ---Recently I ordered a SW Yoke Interface & overlay. I can say two things: 1. I received the products in good time. 2. Communication with Dan was answered in good time. I wish Dan all the best for the future of Ram Controls and look forward to doing business again. --- End quote --- It sucks you disrespect this community so much you'd do business with someone who STOLE FROM IT. One more to add to my list... oh well. You people have ZERO respect for this community if you purchase ANYTHING from SCAM CONTROLS until this guy pays back all that's been stolen. ZERO. Sad. EDIT: And you with ZERO respect can pile on me all you want. All I have to say is ... WHO WAS RIGHT LAST TIME? ---Bad words, bad words, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when saint censors you?--- right... I WAS. So take that, stuff it in your bowl and smoke it. You should be ASHAMED. PS: DAN... you could be the nicest guy in the world with all good intentions... but I will be SCREAMING this message from hilltops until the day SCAM CONTROLS pays back every last cent that Dave STOLE from the community. Once that happens... I'll shut up...but not until then. How's the LAWSUIT going btw? |
| HaRuMaN:
How's he going to pay back people without selling product and turning some kind of profit? :dunno |
| ChadTower:
--- Quote from: HarumaN on June 16, 2011, 10:57:05 am ---How's he going to pay back people without selling product and turning some kind of profit? :dunno --- End quote --- Honestly, that's not our concern. He took over a business with a large outstanding debt burden. If he wasn't willing to capitalize in order to repay those debts it isn't our problem. It is completely unreasonable to do new business with a crooked company with the promise that all new money is going to be used to repay the prior victims. The whole idea may as well be step 5 in a book called How To Con A Community - Again and Again. Maybe this guy is on the level. We'll see. Don't forget that this isn't even the first time a "new guy" has stepped in and "taken over customer service for Dave". |
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