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leapinlew:
I think a way Dan could take orders in a trusting manner would be to use a trusted 3rd party. For example, if UserA wants to purchase a star wars yoke, UserA sends paypal funds to the 3rd party. The 3rd party gets the part(s) from Dan.

It would also be a good idea for Dan to disclose whom all is owed something as well as a schedule of repayment. Random people posting who are owed nothing aren't helping. If Dan wants to untarnish Ram Controls and begin selling again, he'll need transparency.

It's a convoluted way to do business, but it would Dan to build up trust and begin repaying those that were left high and dry.

The question has been raised "Should you do business with Ram controls?" Well, I wouldn't. At least, not without some assurances. Those assurances would need to be a trusted 3rd party, a delivery date, and a payment method that protects me. I am not opposed to purchasing from Ram controls and I'm not opposed to anyone else purchasing from Ram controls, but the phrase "buyer beware" has never been more true.

If Dan were me, and everything he says is true, I would do the following:
1. Post pictures of all the excess stock
2. Post a spreadsheet of whom all is owed what
3. Create a schedule of either repayment, or parts for all those owed
4. Use a trusted 3rd party for transactions until all people owed are repaid
leapinlew:

--- Quote from: pinballjim on June 20, 2011, 10:39:30 am ---Or, uh, you just pay him with a credit card and zap with a chargeback if you don't have your parts in 10 business days?

 ::)

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You make it sound so easy. I've never had to do that. Is that difficult to do? Is any one credit card easier than the others?
upprc04:
Why doesn't Dan provide some contact information?  Most likely through PM, but I think a phone call would be a good step in the right direction.  Maybe he has been doing this with people who actually have an outstanding order and have contacted him.
FrizzleFried:

--- Quote from: leapinlew on June 20, 2011, 10:45:27 am ---
--- Quote from: pinballjim on June 20, 2011, 10:39:30 am ---Or, uh, you just pay him with a credit card and zap with a chargeback if you don't have your parts in 10 business days?

 ::)

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You make it sound so easy. I've never had to do that. Is that difficult to do? Is any one credit card easier than the others?

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Very easy... all credit cards have protections.

EDIT: But then you're back to the whole "supporting a company who screwed the community" thing we've been discussing this whole thread.

BTW... The above suggestions aren't bad.  And every day Dan stays away from KLOV it's just getting worse and worse there.  If he's legit and this isn't some RAM rouse... he'd be best served to go over there say SOMETHING.
leapinlew:

--- Quote from: pinballjim on June 20, 2011, 10:53:22 am ---
--- Quote from: leapinlew on June 20, 2011, 10:45:27 am ---
--- Quote from: pinballjim on June 20, 2011, 10:39:30 am ---Or, uh, you just pay him with a credit card and zap with a chargeback if you don't have your parts in 10 business days?
::)

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You make it sound so easy. I've never had to do that. Is that difficult to do? Is any one credit card easier than the others?

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You've never had to file a chargeback but you're dispensing purchasing advice? 



Dude.  Seriously.


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I didn't realize I needed to be an expert to comment. It hasn't stopped you from commenting on nearly ... well, nearly everything.
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