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ChadTower:

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--- Quote from: Vigo on June 13, 2011, 05:03:46 pm ---My general rule of thumb for movie trailers is the more they tell you about the movie, the worse it is. Not a guaranteed litmus test, but if a trailer has to tell you half the plot to get you interested, then it probably is not a good movie.

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Same here.  But if it's got an alien, spaceship, or a laser I'm going to watch it anyway so I just completely avoid all reviews or trailers.  Been deleting a lot of e-mail about Super 8 today.   :P

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Same here for both.  What good does a rating do me when I don't care at all what anyone else thinks of a movie?  Millions of people consider American Idol and Survivor to be great television.  Why would I have faith in the opinion of those idiots?

shmokes:
For a couple reasons.  For one, these aren't user reviews.  They're written by people who are paid to think about and write about movies.  I'm sure that there is a part of you that knows that for the most part this is not by random chance.  They have this job because they're better at it than the average person.

The second reason is that to a large extent what makes a movie good is practically objective.  There is such broad consensus about some things as to effectively take them out of the realm of "matter of opinion".  Obviously if someone puts Catwoman, Iron Man, and Dark Knight next to each other, it would technically be a matter of opinion whether Catwoman is the best of that lot.  But for all intents and purposes that's not the case.  The latter two have story arcs that make sense, characters that behave and speak in believable ways (at least within their universes) and so on.  If there were no objective criteria by which to evaluate film, film school would be pointless.

And, as much as you like to believe that you are the one special human, that's probably not true.  You want it to be.  We all do.  But that's just your inner megalomaniac talking.  If something is loved by 90% of people, whether film, food, or whatever, there is probably a much higher probability that you too will like it vs. something that is hated by 90% of people.  Especially when supplemented by other info (genre, director, writer, actors, trailer, etc.).  We're dealing with probabilities, of course, so sometimes you're gonna be in the 10% of haters.  But that doesn't negate all the times that you fit in with the crowd, which is probably far more often than you're letting on.  Something tells me that, like the critics, you'll give Dark Knight and Iron Man and Spider-man enthusiastic recommendations over Catwoman, Daredevil and Elektra.

And in any case, no matter the track record of statistical prediction, it's bound to be a more reliable indicator than the persuasiveness of a movie trailer that has been specifically designed to persuade you.

ChadTower:

--- Quote from: shmokes on June 14, 2011, 10:04:16 am ---And, as much as you like to believe that you are the one special human, that's probably not true.  You want it to be.  We all do.  But that's just your inner megalomaniac talking.  If something is loved by 90% of people, whether film, food, or whatever, there is probably a much higher probability that you too will like it vs. something that is hated by 90% of people.  

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Actually, I find the opposite to be true most of the time.  The more people love something the less likely I am to have much use for it.  The types of movies that get great ratings on Rotten Tomatoes are not entertaining to me.  I can't finish a Tarantino movie.  The Farrelly Bros movies are awful.  More often than not when I go with the opinion of the large crowd I end up regretting it.  Not that I'm "that one special human" or whatever you're getting at there.  I just don't like the things that the majority of people like.  I don't care who is getting paid for what.  It's not me paying them, that's for sure.  Their criteria are not my criteria.

Note that there are several people here saying the same thing.  It's not just me.  Rotten Tomatoes is a good tool for people who think like those who like Rotten Tomatoes.  The data there is useless to those who do not think like that.

BTW, I didn't like Spiderman at all.  I disliked it enough that I skipped the sequels.  Yeah, Dark Knight is a great movie, but let's not suggest that has anything to do with Rotten Tomatoes. 

Dartful Dodger:

--- Quote from: ChadTower on June 14, 2011, 10:20:38 am ---Dark Knight is a great movie, but let's not suggest that has anything to do with Rotten Tomatoes. 

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He's not suggesting Rotten Tomatoes had anything to with it being a good movie. He's saying that rotten tomatoes (and the masses) are just saying it was a good movie.

It sounds like you are jsut saying you hate anything that's popular and then claim it's because you don’t conform because you have unique tastes.

You're like those Goth kids who don't conform and want to be unique by not blending in with everyone else, you know the ones, they dress all in black, they all wear long coats, they all wear army boots, they all wear heavy eyeliner and they all dye their hair the same color of the day...

ChadTower:
I never said I dislike things because they are popular.  That would be your interpretation.  I don't care what is popular.  Hell I don't even know what is popular.  I'm that far out of the loop most of the time.  It's easy to be unaware of trends when you're at home working on old games and don't have the TV on.

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