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Blanka:

--- Quote from: ChadTower on May 18, 2011, 08:33:32 pm ---Is Computer Space actually in the mame set?

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No, like PONG, it is NO computer game, but an discrete logic game. No memory, no instructions, no processor, but just some integrated logic operators.

ChadTower:

--- Quote from: Blanka on May 19, 2011, 08:25:49 am ---
--- Quote from: ChadTower on May 18, 2011, 08:33:32 pm ---Is Computer Space actually in the mame set?

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No, like PONG, it is NO computer game, but an discrete logic game. No memory, no instructions, no processor, but just some integrated logic operators.

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I already knew that. That's why I asked. :D

It's entirely possible someone wrote a ROM that emulates that, though, for MAME. Or they could have written a game that acts just like it. That would be a lot easier and is what I mentioned above as my most likely approach.

Vigo:
I took a look back at the MAMEing a rare/valuable cabinet threads of the past, kinda picking up the arguments brought up in the past and comparing back to here. It sparked a couple questions in my mind.

To the "MAMEing brings life back to the machine" crowd: On past threads, your crowd had often pointed out that the cabinets in question were a lot more common than the preservationists made them out to be. Like the case where the guy had MAME'd a broken Galaxian. Being the case that this Computer Space cabinet is rare/highly demanded/unique/of historical significance, does that change your stance at all? At what point to you, as arcade enthusiasts, consider any obligation to preserve a rare piece of arcade history? I don't think the old argument of the modifications being reversible fits well in this case either. The cabinet itself survived for 40 years without much more than a scuff and some missing buttons. Turning the cabinet into a Mame machine only takes away any incentive to restore this cabinet back into a Computer Space.

To the "Maiming is murder!" crowd: You guys always pointed out that any person who appreciates old arcade machines has a certain obligation first and foremost to try to preserve rare and significant machines if possible, and if that was not possible, try to get it to someone who can professionally restore it. Is there a reasonable loophole in here for machines that are too rare and too valuable to easily have it accurately restored? At some point, it would be putting an unreasonable expectation on the cabinet owner. I'm not saying a restoration is impossible, but does not exactly seem fair to sit and expect the owner to hand the cabinet over to somebody could end up just as easily do a hack job of a restoration.

Donkbaca:
To me this particular cabinet is unique. Most cabs are ---smurfy--- particle board or other wood, you can easily replicate them. This cab is hard to replicate. I generally wouldn't care if a wood cab gets messed up. Given the unique situation of this particular cabinet, I think its best as a museum piece, or resto.

mameing doesn't bring life to a machine, unless you don't have the original hardware and you run a dedicated MAME for that set up. That's my opinion. Like if you really liked Tron, had a Tron cab, resto'ed it all up but didn't have the boards. Running a dedicated MAME, that only ran Tron on it would, in my opinion, bring life to the machine. Taking a cab and loading it up with a bunch of stuff, half of which you can't even play, does nothing to honor the machine, in my opinion. Instead, I think its the opposite, you are taking something unique, and making it just like every other PC out there running a front end.

Re mame is murder. I wouldn't go that far. I don't think anyone has an obligation to do anything. That being said, when you have something rare, its irrational to not take full advantage of the situation. If all you want to do is play mame, you can build a rig out of cardboard and duct tape (you can, I have seen pics) The most rational thing to do would be to sell the cab, use that money for a generic cab and use the rest of the money to spend a nice weekend with your family. Ebay the damn thing is what you should do

Really, I think the outrage, at least for me, and I am not a restore all the classics type of dude is this; you see the cab and you are like "wow, I have never seen one of these before, what game does it play?" Doesn't matter if the game was ---smurfy---, or not fun, I would want to play it and connect with history. Now you see it, and you are like, "that's neat", and then you step up to it and its nothing special, its just an ordinary mame cab with a small monitor and ---smurfy---, ---smurfy---, ---smurfy---, ---smurfy--- controls. The crime is taking something unique and special and then turning it into something common and ordinary.

Vigo:
Well, I have been on the fence about this whole thing, and my questions may have been taking either side's stance a bit far, but I am trying to threash out the two opposing viewpoints on the matter, but I think a lot of what you said rings true. Especially the last sentence.

It's hard for me to determine what a reasonable expectation should be. If I personally stumbled up on this cabinet, I don't know if I would have the time, money, or resources to restore or do the cabinet any justice. I would not want to give the cabinet up either. :dunno I couldn't just Mame the thing either, even it it was a non-instrusive MAMEing.

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