Main > Main Forum

Product Announcement, LONO Arcade to USB Controller

Pages: << < (9/15) > >>

AndyWarne:


--- Quote from: Donkbaca on May 16, 2011, 10:35:49 pm ---That tiger heli link IS cool! Nice to know the old folks on here can post useful things instead of telling noobs they are wrong and that street fighter sucks...

--- End quote ---

But be aware that doc is very old. Products have changed since then, certainly ours have changed substantially. Much of the USB information, which refers to low-speed USB, is no longer relevant.

ark_ader:


--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on May 17, 2011, 12:42:01 am ---EVEGames, this may very well be a troll against me... and I dont care, but I will respond appropriately to set the record straight.

 I have posted my opinions about things I have not touched.  But this being with knowledge of the product, and a deep understanding of the nature of other related products.

 For example, a Leaf switch that has a hard 'bottom out point', will feel different than one that does not.  Its simple physics & comparison of the nearly identical physical counterparts.  You dont have to have the actual 'thing' to know its behavior.

 However, in Arks case, he spouts off without any understanding of the product or its differences... which isnt really right, and as you said, his response was very bitter, and seemed 'personal'.

 As for the market, I wouldnt know.  I dont sell the things.  Nor do I know the sheer number of mame type projects out there.  I do know that competition is good though.  But then again, sometimes cooperation can be better...  For example, if all the vendors pooled resources to get new Vector monitor made (or maybe a laser projector version?), remakes of complex controls such as Race Drivins FFB wheel + the sitdown shifter, a run of specialty plastics parts, etc.

 On a personal note, while I do not know technically if the thing gives the results that it claims... I do feel its imperative to have the utmost fastest responses possible.  A delay may be fine on certain games, but the more intense games really push you to the limits... and a split second delay can ruin everything.

 It may be a little more in cost, but for me, better control = better experience = worth every cent.


--- End quote ---

Well I have owned several encoders, but I like GGG's best.  The only reason for this - they work and work very well and they do not ghost or experience any lag.  The price factor would be a close second, as my soldering skills leave me with blistered fingers.

I have worked in an arcade while I was in College.  I used to build small cabinets out of laptops (none were any good really) but I used several encoders, including Andy's, and I still prefer Randy's.  I like X Arcade encoders too as they work on several platforms (with adapters) very well.  I cannot say I am a electronics wiz, but I know what works and what doesn't.

I do not like ghosting or lag, and I do not get any with Randy's or Andy's product.  Until I see a proper review with actual video, I'll stick with what I know is the best.  Besides Randy's customer service equals his product, which we can all agree.

So I am dubious with a product like the Lono, especially from an unknown, and when it is brought in to a website like BYOAC.  I will make a comment.  You don't like it, I can very easily go back to using spoilers in my post.

Unfortunately we have a brown nose in this forum that will argue at a drop of a hat.  Let him, that what freedom is all about.  We can always read his posts and laugh.

So until I see a proper review - I'll stick with GGG.  But if this Lono is the bees knees, I don't mind trying it out on my next product.

Maybe you can get an arcade builder to do a trial.


Enuf said.   :cheers:

Donkbaca:

Why the skepticism?  Lots of people have dealt with Bryan, and I have never seen anything bad written about him.  I like his approach to products, he isn't claiming his is the "best" he is just saying that its faster than any advertised rate of transfer, which is an objective fact.  Neph provided a mini-review.  I don't understand the negativity.  You are either implying that Bryan and Neph are liars, or they don't know what they are talking about.

I think word of mouth is pretty strong around here, things that don't work get rooted out fast.  If Bryan's product is great, it will develop a following, if its crap, it won't. The thing is though, that since word of mouth is strong people should qualify their remarks as opinions, and not masquerade them as facts.  If you have never tried this product, or even never bought from Bryan, how can you possibly have any sort of information that is worth anything to anyone?  You are just talking for the sake of talking.  You are entitled to your opinion, but it is what it is, an uninformed opinion.  Furthermore, just because you knew a lot about what encoders were like 5 years ago doesn't mean you have a clue as to what is being sold now.  Also, who cares if you worked in an arcade, building your own controls in 2010 is a LOT different then maintaining an arcade 20 years ago. You can build a mame cabinet with materials and components that do not have a SINGLE component in common with what was in arcade cabs 20 years ago.

This isn't a big dump on the vets on the board, a lot of them have very valuable things to say about things they know. But, for those that pretend like they know everything, here's a clue; technology has advanced and changed since the times that double dragon ruled the arcade and that cab you built 6 years ago on a pentium 2 running mame .36 doesn't have a lot in common with a lot of cabs being built now using different technology, different displays, different form factors, different front ends and connecting PS3's and Xboxes.

Buy what you want, say what you want, who cares, but don't get all sensitive when someone calls you out on your ---That which is odiferous and causeth plants to grow--- and don't pretend that you OPINION is somehow better or more valuable than someone that has 15 posts. 9 times out of ten, from my experience, its not.

ark_ader:


--- Quote from: armi0024 on May 15, 2011, 05:12:55 am ---Based on beta testing feeback....

We added some functionality to the board.

The Lono will have three start up states, dependent on joystick position at start up.  If joystick 1 is in the neutral position the last programmed state will just be reactivated.
State 1) 4 x 1 joystick x 14 button controller
State 2) 4 x 1 joystick x 14 button controller, where button 14 acts as a shift, making buttons 1-13 show up as 15 -27
State 3) 4 x 1 joystick x 14 button controller, where button 14 shifts all the buttons and the joystick directions become 28-31

A lot of controllers have a "shift" button, but it is usually a universal "shift".  With the Lono, the board is recognized as four controller devices, and in these separate modes each has it's own shift capabilities.  That means you can enter admin controls on player 2, while player 1 is currently be used to play a game without affecting the mapping on player 1.  This also gives the lono the possibility of being programmed to 124 different action buttons and 4 joysticks.  Each controller, on the 4 controller board, has the capability of 31 different button signals and a joystick.

And it does all of this at a blazing fast speed, making it one of the fastest and more versatile controllers on the market.

--- End quote ---

What versions of Windows requires drivers for the Lono?  The advertisement says most versions.  Is that something to do with USB 2.0 compatibility?

What is the speed of the interface using USB 1.0 or is it not compatible?

Is there any blocking or ghosting with all devices being operated at once? 

What is the main differences between the Lono, Ipac and the Eco Wiz, except the price?

What sets this product apart from other well known established keyboard encoders?

Can this interface work with rotary Joysticks, or can you add daughter boards to expand control devices?

Have you begun to ship these Lono interfaces, or is the one pictured just a prototype?

Dazz:

Wow, you guys really do bicker and moan way too much. 

I personally love seeing new products and new options for cab builders still being made.  I like having multiple options.  I think the LONO is a nice small footprint package that allows for some very clean wiring to be done.  Depending on when this is released; I'm considering going with the LONO on my current pinball/arcade hybrid build.

Pages: << < (9/15) > >>

Go to full version