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| Xiaou2:
--- Quote ---ONLY a black handle version!?! No love for GORF... Cry --- End quote --- I dont know what your talking about, considering every Gorf Ive ever seen Has a black handle stick. Additionally, I believe the originals are OPTICAL, thus not easy for anyone to convert. The only other color Handle Ive seen, besides the discussed blue tron stick, is Red, for Satans Hollow. And yes, I do Luv Gorf, but no, Im not going to marry him. --- Quote ---But if not, and you play other emulators, you can get a lot closer to the feel of a diamond pattern with your buttons when they are offset. --- End quote --- While I like that your opinion is not a forceful one, such as been seen by the beat-down crew here.. I have to disagree a bit with this point. While gamepads on consoles have a staggered arrangement, its mainly because the thumb can more easily slide from one to the other, as well as hold nearly any two buttons down with the single thumb. When it comes to arcade buttons, its a different story. You dont use your thumb, and even if you used a single finger, you wouldnt use it like a gamepad... so the layout makes no real sense, and give no real advantage. In fact, because you would use them as arcade buttons, you will more than likely end up hitting the edges of buttons on accident, even in console emulated games. Sega started out with a 3 button layout, which still allowed 2 buttons to be pressed with one thumb. When fighters came out, even they went with a traditional arcade 6button layout. Nintendo started out with the 4 button layout, and just decided to let users suffer with having to adjust to the top shoulder buttons for the high power attacks. It worked ok, but not as good as the traditional layout. (and hey, how are we going to emulate the shoulder buttons? heh, j/k) Neo Geo arcade? I have no idea why they chose to alter the position of the 1st button. I think it was merely for looks. Btw, look at your keyboard. Even your keys are not a perfectly centered stagger. Most of the key is directly above the key your finger is resting on. The key are also fairly flat, (unlike a traditional concave button) so even if you hit them on the edge, it doesnt feel bad. Not so with a Happ concave button. --- Quote ---but when I do....I have to post. --- End quote --- Thanks HanoiBoi. Its almost like a guy getting a gift for his friend, but instead of really getting something his friend would want... the guy gets something HE really wants instead, figuring that his friend will like it anyway. People here get way too wrapped up in their own opinions and viewpoints, egos, etc.. and completely ignore what the other person is asking for / desires. And then gets all offended when the advice isnt taken or accepted. While they put the obligatory 'if your wants' in there... its kind of a joke, considering the 1hr long sales pitch, then the 2 second 'but if you Really Really REALLY want to.. do whatever you want. (But make sure you REALLY think about it, cause your wrong if you do it your way)'. --- Quote ---it can be very convenient with quick connections for easy replacement etc. --- End quote --- Its not exactly very quick, not convenient to have to swap a panel. Not only do you have to find a place to store the beast, but then its going to take 5 minutes to bring out, swap over, and set the other panel away. Its major buzzkill, similar to the original Laser Discs which had to be flipped over mid-way into the movie. Its a decent option, but its not for everyone, and its not always the best option. --- Quote ---one with horizontal and one with vertical monitor. --- End quote --- Or you could make a rotating monitor... ? Or use a larger monitor that looks fine in either orientation ? --- Quote ---The decision is for you to make, just realize it's one or the other --- End quote --- See what I mean? Its the typical black and white statement. Why cant there be shades in-between? In their world, its one or the other. There exist no middle-ground. --- Quote ---I also have thought about going modular --- End quote --- Modulars often look worse than many other options. Theres parts lying all over the place, and the CP has lines running through it. Theres almost no way to make artwork for them that works well. Changing the panels around is even more of a pain in the butt than an entire separate control panel. They are much more a pain to build, and, expensive parts can be lost, broken more easily, and more easily stolen. |
| rcub3:
Too many things to copy/paste/quote to reply to... Great! Thanks for all the feedback Re: Build Thread I'll try to start one over the weekend. Seeing the response here, it sounds like a good idea to get some feedback, ideas, etc before starting to make cuts, etc. Re: multiple cabs vs multiple CP's Yes, storing a second CP would be a pain, but building a whole new cab will ttake more time and even more space. I'm leaning towards 2 Cp's at the moment... Aesthetics are definitively important. Time is at a premium for me. I'm in my 30's with a busy career and a 9mo old daughter (my first). Maybe once I actually have a working cab to get my fix, I may reconsider building another cab. Re: rotating monitor... Yeah, I think I'm just going with a large CRT/arcade monitor to again maximize playability. Re: offsetting the 6 buttons Imight not do it just for the "NeoGeo feel". I may just leave them Street fighter style. I do enjoy fighters quite a bit. |
| TopJimmyCooks:
--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on April 29, 2011, 10:49:02 am ---and the CP has lines running through it. --- End quote --- True. --- Quote --- Theres almost no way to make artwork for them that works well. --- End quote --- False. I'm working on a mad magazine type fold up deal for my modular that is going to blow minds. --- Quote --- They are much more a pain to build, and, expensive parts can be lost, broken more easily, and more easily stolen. --- End quote --- If building causes someone pain, why come here? I look for the challenges as part of the hobby. In all fairness, I can build whatever I feel like, but I can't get past the first level of Donkey Kong. Protecting your parts is part of the design and part of the challenge. And, theft is not such a big problem inside most people's houses. Certainly not mine. :cheers: A well considered modular panel is a wonderful thing and keeps the bolts off the neck. |
| Vigo:
--- Quote from: Donkbaca on April 28, 2011, 11:50:44 pm ---Everyone needs to get their balls busted once in a while. I like Malenko, the man knows his stuff (except for r-type and life force) --- End quote --- --- Quote from: Malenko on April 28, 2011, 08:15:22 pm ---its just so funny that I agree with DoDonBaka so much but hes so hostile, its hilarious --- End quote --- :laugh2: I love how Donkbaca and Malenko have been some kind of lovers quarrel and then go through the makeup phase. What a cute couple...do I smell a BYOAC wedding coming up? :lol :lol |
| Donkbaca:
--- Quote ---Modulars often look worse than many other options. Theres parts lying all over the place, and the CP has lines running through it. Theres almost no way to make artwork for them that works well. Changing the panels around is even more of a pain in the butt than an entire separate control panel. They are much more a pain to build, and, expensive parts can be lost, broken more easily, and more easily stolen --- End quote --- . I agree with a lot of this... except for this part: --- Quote ---and more easily stolen --- End quote --- WTF? I think swappable CPs is a better solution than modular, but the problem with that is that a 4p CP is so big, you will have a lot of wasted space if you swap in a 2p CP, plus there is the hassle of storing the non-used CPs. If you do go this route, I suggest you make one CP black, and one white. In my oppressive world, there is no room for gray CPs I too am a busy 30ish person, got a 22 month old and another on the way so I feel you :) Aesthetics are probably important for the Wife Acceptance Factor. That's why I ended up going with a slim build. Good luck on the build. Realize it will probably take you 3 times as long as you expected. THere are so many cool things on here, it almost makes me want to build ten cabs! Keep us posted. The biggest issue I have had was trying to stick to a plan. My original idea was a simple cab with a 30 inch TV and transplanted x-arcade controls. Now I am almost done with my cab, its completely different, its a slim, with a 21.5 inch LCD. Browsed on here, decided to add lit buttons, lit sticks....I have my own franken-machine, not because I have so many controls, but because I am incorporating an x-box 360 into the build. Good luck! |
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