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shmokes:
The Xbox I set up for my in-laws died and they decided to get a generic media streamer box (Zinwell ZIN-5005HD, for reference).  It's a pretty impressive little box for the price.  The interface pales in comparison to XBMC, but I'd use it to stream media over the PS3 any day of the week.

Anyway, I've recently run into trouble.  I gave them a metric ton of media, and it all plays fine, but the stuff that my father in-law rips is having a strange problem.  The video shows up in the preview window before selecting it (the preview window is exactly what it sounds like), but then when you select the video there's a brief flicker on the screen, like the device is switching video modes or something, and then we just get audio, but no video.  This only happens when I try to play in 1080i over component cables.  If I switch to 480p it plays fine.  However, the menu is displaying fine in 1080i and all the media I gave him is playing fine in 1080i.  It's just the stuff we're recently ripping.  Also, this is happening when streaming over the network, or playing directly through a USB attached drive.

So I figured it has to do with the rips.  First, these are not HD rips.  They're just DVD rips.  VLC plays them fine on the computer.  I tried ripping with Divx, Xvid, and H.264 and all behave the same on this media streamer.  I'm thinking maybe it's a resolution the device doesn't like, but I don't really know much about changing resolutions, beyond just trying things at random.  Also, this device will play HD media, including Blu-ray rips, so I'm not sure why it would be choking on the resolution.  In any case, I've compared non-working rips to working rips that both have the same resolution, so it can't be just that.  BTW, I'm ripping with DVDfab.

In short, any suggestions?

Ond:
I know you've tried a few different video codecs but maybe try encoding to Matroska format (*.mkv) instead of say *.avi or other?  I've had similar problems with my media player not playing certain formats and that sorted it for me.  BTW I use WinAvi for my rips and conversions which allows just about any-to-any conversions and codec variations including quicktime stuff which can be a headache.  It's not free but it's the best I've used so far.

SavannahLion:
It's a bit of a long shot but....

I have heard that some players will refuse to play over HDMI over higher resolutions of the permissions on that video don't line up. I can't imagine how the permissions on a particular disc would still remain in effect after the ripping process. Much less that type of permission problem cropping up on non-Bluray discs. But this behavior:

--- Quote ---This only happens when I try to play in 1080i over component cables.  If I switch to 480p it plays fine.

--- End quote ---
sounds similar to the behavior I've read about. I don't think it's causing this particular problem because of the source and the fact you're not using HDMI but it might be worth at least a look-see.

I've encountered video from some sources that have really bizarre property values. For instance, my step daughters ---smurfy--- little camera sets the video property values to something like 1W, 1H for the resolution. Whenever I archive them, I have to remember to go in and manually tweak the values to the true values or the vast majority of non-VLC players balk. (VLC has played everything I tossed at it with exception of a couple of bizarre QT-Only files.) The video ripping settings might be correct, but the property values might be not. Might also be worth a look-see.

Not to steal the thread, but how does one convert from the DVD format to a more efficient format such as avi, mkv or whatever? I can pull the videos just fine (those that aren't copyrighted) as raw video data and I can convert any of the formats (eg avi, mkv, etc) videos I have into a DVD, but I'm a bit stymied by the post-reduction process. I've Googled for it in the past, but I get swamped by those crap pay-$40-to-do-this software for a process that is obviously well... duh.

shmokes:
Handbrake is free.  But DVDfab is excellent.  It costs money, but definitely not crap.  I highly recommend it.

jamesjones626:

--- Quote from: SavannahLion on April 11, 2011, 01:43:44 am ---It's a bit of a long shot but....

I have heard that some players will refuse to play over HDMI over higher resolutions of the permissions on that video don't line up. I can't imagine how the permissions on a particular disc would still remain in effect after the ripping process. Much less that type of permission problem cropping up on non-Bluray discs. But this behavior:

--- Quote ---This only happens when I try to play in 1080i over component cables.  If I switch to 480p it plays fine.

--- End quote ---
sounds similar to the behavior I've read about. I don't think it's causing this particular problem because of the source and the fact you're not using HDMI but it might be worth at least a look-see.

I've encountered video from some sources that have really bizarre property values. For instance, my step daughters ---smurfy--- little camera sets the video property values to something like 1W, 1H for the resolution. Whenever I archive them, I have to remember to go in and manually tweak the values to the true values or the vast majority of non-VLC players balk. (VLC has played everything I tossed at it with exception of a couple of bizarre QT-Only files.) The video ripping settings might be correct, but the property values might be not. Might also be worth a look-see.

Not to steal the thread, but how does one convert from the DVD format to a more efficient format such as avi, mkv or whatever? I can pull the videos just fine (those that aren't copyrighted) as raw video data and I can convert any of the formats (eg avi, mkv, etc) videos I have into a DVD, but I'm a bit stymied by the post-reduction process. I've Googled for it in the past, but I get swamped by those crap pay-$40-to-do-this software for a process that is obviously well... duh.

--- End quote ---
Use handbrake to convert dvd files to avi or mkv. x.264 codec in mkv format is really the way to go. You can have soft subs (subtitles that you can turn on or off) and have multiple audio channels.  The compression is better than divx or xvid.  VLC player is decent, but i would reccomend getting cccp codec pack and using media player classic to play files, mainly for anime though.  Its a bit harder to setup but doesnt have the problems that vlc player sometimes have.

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