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VanillaGorilla:


--- Quote from: pinballjim on March 07, 2011, 12:08:22 pm ---Just like those Jakk's joysticks ended the days of the $1,200 Ms Pac-Man cabinets, these legal arcade game downloads on the consoles are going to kill the value of MAME cabinets.

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Amen Brother. I dont welcome our new 16:9 overlords. What are the OTHER reasons to make an XBOX 360 cab? I have one, and never use it...anyone wanna buy a 360 Kinect and an unopened call of duty?

leapinlew:


--- Quote from: pinballjim on March 07, 2011, 12:08:22 pm ---Just like those Jakk's joysticks ended the days of the $1,200 Ms Pac-Man cabinets, these legal arcade game downloads on the consoles are going to kill the value of MAME cabinets.

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Not only that.... but how big could the classic arcade game market possibly have been? It's a major undertaking to bring an arcade machine into the house. I would have to imagine that anyone who wants one, has one or has decided to not get one. Financial reasons aren't really valid anymore.

Donkbaca:

The main reason I am integrating a xb 360 into my cab is to play, what I call the new gen of arcade games. Things like soul caliber, SSFIV, NBA jam, the new mortal kombat, all the shmups, etc... Arcades are more or less dead, for me it's a way to enjoy new games in a semi-arcade setting.

I see it as a good thing for the mame scene, the more people exposed to the classics, the better

opt2not:


--- Quote from: Donkbaca on March 08, 2011, 11:42:32 am ---The main reason I am integrating a xb 360 into my cab is to play, what I call the new gen of arcade games. Things like soul caliber, SSFIV, NBA jam, the new mortal kombat, all the shmups, etc... Arcades are more or less dead, for me it's a way to enjoy new games in a semi-arcade setting.

I see it as a good thing for the mame scene, the more people exposed to the classics, the better

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I wouldn't solely put a 360 in an arcade machine. The best thing to do is have both a PC for mame games, and a 360 for new-gen games.  

A PC running Mame still has the advantage over the 360:
- You are not limited by game choices. on a 360, you're not going to discover hidden gems that were in the arcade. the 360 only releases what they deem as the "popular" titles. Think about the classic fighters like SFIII:Third Strike, or a great shmup like Progear...heck, you can't emulate other systems like the DC for Under Defeat, or Radigy! You are definitely limited.
- You have a custom front-end. the 360 dash sucks compared to Hyperspin, or Mala setups.
- Repairing a PC is much easier than repairing a dead 360.
- If you really want to take advantage of 360 games, you need a widescreen display. Playing vertical games on a widescreen tv really sucks.
- you don't get the coin-up functions you can normally map in mame to a coin-door. Putting a coin into the machine is the real experience. Hearing that "click-clank-shhh-tunk" sound, in conjunction of the in-game credit sound is just amazing.
- creating a control panel that incorporates multiple control schemes (like dual stick shooters for Robotron, or rotary joys, or spinner games) is pretty much fubar'd for a solo 360 setup.
- New gen games that require use of the 360's analog sticks are pretty much out of the question.  I.e. Geometry Wars, Mutant Storm. Best to run those games off the PC. There is currently no good solution for hacking up the analog sticks to be used with a joystick.

IMO, having a 360 as the main driving hardware for a cabinet will only be good when the 360 gets hacked and can run Mame and whatever FE.  and of course, figuring out a way for the analog games (dials, trackballs, etc...)
For now, the only reasons to have a 360 in a cabinet is for SSF4, Pacman CE/CE:DX, and maybe a few other retro-remakes. Galaga Legions can't even be played properly without the analog sticks!

New gen console + PC for mame is the best way to go.

DJ_Izumi:

For the record, I have the game on 360 and a wide screen monitor.  It doesn't crop the top and bottom, it stretches to fill the frame.  However in the settings you can use the analog sticks to adjust the stretching in X and Y, so you can change it to pillar box and adjust the aspect ratio yourself.  You can also squeeze it down a bit if needed to deal with overscan.

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