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BobA:
The total amount of losses make an action quite unlikely. Knowing what lawyers charge they could eat up way more than the amount lost in a week.
milhouse:
I'm an attorney and while this should not be construed as legal advice and I am not admitted in CA, this is actually a decent case to pursue and the kind of thing that an individual could do without an attorney. Its ideal particularly because CA's consumer protection statutes are very consumer-friendly and depending on the circumstances of an individual transaction, could result in treble damages. I don't know if you are allowed to in CA, but some states will allow you to appear by phone to argue your case, or alternatively, do everything by written motion so that you could sue the company in CA. Alternatively you might be able to sue locally, and probably win via default (assuming no one appears to respond to your complaint). Collecting on that judgment might be a pain though as you'd have to deal with CA on that.
So its not that hard and it can easily be done without an attorney. Its mostly a pain in the ass, and a time-suck, as is all litigation.
Not legal advice, etc.
FrizzleFried:
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--- Quote from: CheffoJeffo on March 04, 2011, 11:11:31 am ---I received a PM from Channelmaniac, who is also a moderator over at KLOV, letting me know that it looks like RAM Controls may be on a similar route previously travelled by SlikStik. Lots of orders outstanding -- almost $25K worth last I checked.
I have updated the RAM Controls listing in the wiki with a warning and link to the thread over at KLOV.
Link to big thread on KLOV
Link To Google Spreadsheet Listing People Missing Orders
You can email rippedoffbyramcontrols@gmail.com to add your name to the spreadsheet.
I hate these kind of threads and hate to see this happen, particularly on this scale. I have done well by Dave, but then the same was true of my dealings with Christian.
:badmood:
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Well I hope you accusation is accurate, as Dave has always kept his word.
If you are wrong about this...... ::)
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I'd be interested in knowing how RAM could deliver full working REPRO Cockpits as he's sold to MULTIPLE PEOPLE over at KLOV. Seriously. How is the man going to delivery FULL REPRO cockpits when he doesn't have the artwork... plus I am pretty sure he's not reproing the SW boardsets... or the amp tubes... or the amp chassis... or... or... or...
Please... do you really think the guy can come through with FULLY REPROED COCKPITS that he's already SOLD to multiple people?
For those doubting the guy was pre-selling FULL COCKPITS...take a look at this page that a KLOVian member saved before RAM took it down.
Bah... the software here resizes. Here is a direct link:
http://www.720zone.com/Ram-Controls-SW-Sale.html
I feel real bad for those being taken for a ride... ESPECIALLY those who pre-paid for FULL COCKPITS at just about $3K.
Bender:
I have had good luck with Ram Controls and the quality of the products are first rate, but anyone who has been following this site knows Dave has had serious issues filling orders, so one should take precautions when ordering, use a credit card, get tracking #, etc
I'd like to see a list of OUR members who still have outstanding orders I know there are a few, but have no idea many, my hunch is that there are not that many
Half of the money from that goggle list are for Star Wars Cab pre Orders, so I think that $24K is a little deceiving
having said that I would NEVER, EVER pre order from Ram Controls
I really hope with outstanding orders get resolved soon, this just so disturbing
Hoopz:
--- Quote from: Bender on March 04, 2011, 08:02:36 pm ---I have had good luck with Ram Controls and the quality of the products are first rate, but anyone who has been following this site knows Dave has had serious issues filling orders, so one should take precautions when ordering, use a credit card, get tracking #, etc
I'd like to see a list of OUR members who still have outstanding orders I know there are a few, but have no idea many, my hunch is that there are not that many
Half of the money from that goggle list are for Star Wars Cab pre Orders, so I think that $24K is a little deceiving
having said that I would NEVER, EVER pre order from Ram Controls
I really hope with outstanding orders get resolved soon, this just so disturbing
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Surely, you jest? How can the list be deceiving when Dave hasn't delivered on what he took payment for? Just because they are more expensive items doesn't make his fraud any less.
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