Arcade Collecting > Pinball
If only 1 pin - which one?
tomdotcom:
I would probably pick TZ out of those options, with IJ a VERY close second...
But Krupa makes a good point. I've owned ten pins so far, and my all time fave that I've owned so far is Fishtales, even though I've had other good pins like Addam's Family, Dr Who, World Cup Soccer 94, Getaway High Speed II, etcetc...
Xiaou2:
As for Digital pins, sorry... but I dont agree. Theres nothing like the real deal. Ive played plenty of virtual pinball and future pinball... and they just make me more frustrated than anything else.
The tables look like butt. Poor shading, poor lighting, low quality art scans, many times the perspective is from a midgets point of view, colors are usually off due to poor lighting, Ramps, toys, light covers.. all usually are visually unbearable. The look is flat obviously, and in person, its even worse looking than you can imagine.
(if you want to see an example of good looking virtual pinball tables, see Microsoft's old Pinball Arcade cd.)
Digital pins Physics are poor. And the analog abilities are still really weak. Shaking a table feels nothing like shaking a real machine. (I have a feeling some people dont know how to work a pin correctly here, using lite bumping and flipper tricks, as well as ball spin tactics) In fact, you cant feel anything on a virtual pin. With a real pin, you can sense the smallest things... from position of the ball (hear it as well as feel the ball rolling), as well as how hard things hit, and how much you have to bump things...etc..
And finally, you have issues with the motion blurring because even decent LCDs still stink for fast moving objects.
All in all, Id never trade my real pin for a virtual pin.
At very most, I might build one as an addition... but only if things like head-tracking (seen on the Johnny Lee's wimote demo) is added - to create 'on the fly' 3d perspective / depth... as well as supporting analog inputs better.
mcfa0201:
Guys, this is exactly the input I needed. Not so keen on the Hyperpin style setup (more after the real deal). I think I will head down to the pinball warehouse, take some decent coin with me, and play and play and play - and go with the one that 'clicks'.
I cannot wait to get one home but - am an old arcader - am looking to break into the pinball world.
Thanx for all the input - helped alot.
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Donkbaca:
If it was me, I would get a Gottleib street fighter 2 pin. The bonus stage with the car is dope, plus its the only version of SF2 that I haven't beaten :laugh:
Donkbaca:
Yeah, I have no pins. Honestly that's the one I want the most. I think I can probably get one for $500 in good shape.
The wife though, says that if we are going to get a pin, it has to be Banzai Run....
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