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Epyx:
--- Quote ---Id love to see someone try to use the word Nazi to describe something cool/positive.
Maybe South Park creators can push the next gen of kids and teens into using it that way...
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That is still the same flawed logic...Gay never originally meant someone who prefers their own sex...it meant "HAPPY"...Nazi...always meant a member of the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei. While I choose not to use the word Gay to describe things I don't like out of sensitivity to homosexuals I certainly don't believe for one second that the majority of the people purposely use it offensively...I honestly do think they use it for the new meaning "uncool"...and unfortunately that is the nature of language...it changes...The N word will always mean what it means...Homosexual will always mean what it means but Gay for hundreds of years meant happy and only the last few decades did it mean Sexual preference of ones own sex...
Either way its not as apples to apples to compare it to the term Nazi for the reasons I outlined, even if I agree with you on your other points...either way the thread is derailing.
So How about those Vancouver Canucks eh? :)
Xiaou2:
--- Quote ---That is still the same flawed logic...Gay never originally meant someone who prefers their own sex...it meant "HAPPY"
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Yes, and as Ive said, homosexuals adopted it because it was positive. Theres nothing really wrong with that.
Whats wrong, is when a word is changed into being abusive, on purpose.
--- Quote ---...Nazi...always meant a member of the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei.
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You are comparing the wrong meanings. I am comparing the definition of Homsexuality, VS uncool,crap,despicable...etc. A nice "Spin" tactic, but anyone can see past that crud.
And, As Ive said, try to take something Known to be wrong and make it into a positive. It would be wrong and offensive.
Just as changing the Generally ACCEPTED, and Documented, term of "Gay" to be "Homosexuality", into a Negative and derogatory term, is wrong.
--- Quote --- While I choose not to use the word Gay to describe things I don't like out of sensitivity to homosexuals
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Bravo. Because you too know its wrong. So its strange you defend in the opposing direction... instead of standing for proper principals. Not that Im calling you this... but thats kind of spineless.
--- Quote ---I certainly don't believe for one second that the majority of the people purposely use it offensively...I honestly do think they use it for the new meaning "uncool"
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I agree with you there.
But I dont agree with people using that term in my presence, and I dont believe in letting that behavior go unchecked elsewhere either. If they are not aware, then they should be made aware, that its not right.
--- Quote ---...and unfortunately that is the nature of language...it changes...
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Look, be real. The only way the Term would change from Happy to beyond its absolute Polar Opposite (abusive), AND BECOME POPULAR, is through the magic of brainwashing thats been done through the Mass Media.
While the shows intent may have been to shock a certain group of people into being more reasonable, they in fact have created the opposite effect on the other side of the fence. I have a feeling that they are in fact homosexual haters/bashers at heart.
Its a sad world indeed, that such garbage is allowed to poison the minds and hearts of the young.
(Cartoon characters for Cigarette brands? hmm, is that wrong? /sarcasm off )
--- Quote ---Either way its not as apples to apples to compare it to the term Nazi for the reasons I outlined, even if I agree with you on your other points...either way the thread is derailing.
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Well, we can agree to disagree on certain points.
But I stand firm on my stance, even though its the most extreme example.
As for thread derailing, I could care less. There is no crime in expressing an opinion...
and there are no laws about changing topics and thread content.
And if you believe there Should be... then you are getting closer and closer to Nazi style of thinking.
For example, only One way to build a control panel... and if you deviate and are caught, you are dismembered.
Extremest points, yes. But sadly, it seems the only way to wake people up to the ridiculous attitudes that are becoming this sad reality.
Xiaou2:
As for the arcade, Its always sad when they close. I used to manage one for several years.
But seeing the video of countless "Me-Too" fighters in that arcade didnt do much to get any sympathy from me.
Theres maybe 3 games Id ever put a quarter into over there. The rest is a waste of space, Imop.
In NYC, the population density is so high that they can get away with it... but you put those same games in an arcade here upstate, and there wont be more than a handful of people per week... and fairly few regulars. Which is again, why arcades have pretty much closed up altogether.
There simply isnt as much originality in games today. Theres nothing that really drives people to want to get away from the home systems... let alone play something more than once. ("novelty only" games suck, and dont get repeat money)
If the industry ever starts to let creative people have full reign of control again... then maybe we will finally get our arcades back, and more popular than ever. Till then, its all down hill... and it wont be long before even the highest density locations, are closed down forever.
Mikezilla:
--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on February 23, 2011, 02:43:53 am ---
--- Quote ---That is still the same flawed logic...Gay never originally meant someone who prefers their own sex...it meant "HAPPY"
--- End quote ---
Yes, and as Ive said, homosexuals adopted it because it was positive. Theres nothing really wrong with that.
Whats wrong, is when a word is changed into being abusive, on purpose.
--- Quote ---...Nazi...always meant a member of the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei.
--- End quote ---
You are comparing the wrong meanings. I am comparing the definition of Homsexuality, VS uncool,crap,despicable...etc. A nice "Spin" tactic, but anyone can see past that crud.
And, As Ive said, try to take something Known to be wrong and make it into a positive. It would be wrong and offensive.
Just as changing the Generally ACCEPTED, and Documented, term of "Gay" to be "Homosexuality", into a Negative and derogatory term, is wrong.
--- Quote --- While I choose not to use the word Gay to describe things I don't like out of sensitivity to homosexuals
--- End quote ---
Bravo. Because you too know its wrong. So its strange you defend in the opposing direction... instead of standing for proper principals. Not that Im calling you this... but thats kind of spineless.
--- Quote ---I certainly don't believe for one second that the majority of the people purposely use it offensively...I honestly do think they use it for the new meaning "uncool"
--- End quote ---
I agree with you there.
But I dont agree with people using that term in my presence, and I dont believe in letting that behavior go unchecked elsewhere either. If they are not aware, then they should be made aware, that its not right.
--- Quote ---...and unfortunately that is the nature of language...it changes...
--- End quote ---
Look, be real. The only way the Term would change from Happy to beyond its absolute Polar Opposite (abusive), AND BECOME POPULAR, is through the magic of brainwashing thats been done through the Mass Media.
While the shows intent may have been to shock a certain group of people into being more reasonable, they in fact have created the opposite effect on the other side of the fence. I have a feeling that they are in fact homosexual haters/bashers at heart.
Its a sad world indeed, that such garbage is allowed to poison the minds and hearts of the young.
(Cartoon characters for Cigarette brands? hmm, is that wrong? /sarcasm off )
--- Quote ---Either way its not as apples to apples to compare it to the term Nazi for the reasons I outlined, even if I agree with you on your other points...either way the thread is derailing.
--- End quote ---
Well, we can agree to disagree on certain points.
But I stand firm on my stance, even though its the most extreme example.
As for thread derailing, I could care less. There is no crime in expressing an opinion...
and there are no laws about changing topics and thread content.
And if you believe there Should be... then you are getting closer and closer to Nazi style of thinking.
For example, only One way to build a control panel... and if you deviate and are caught, you are dismembered.
Extremest points, yes. But sadly, it seems the only way to wake people up to the ridiculous attitudes that are becoming this sad reality.
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Youre so judgmental Xiaou, its really kind of laughable. Ok, so what if the meaning of the word "gay" changed to "reject" or "defective", because from nature's point of view, thats what being homosexual is right? Then what would you say? "Oh man, this new computer part I got is gay(defective) I better take it back".
Epyx:
--- Quote ---Youre so judgmental Xiaou, its really kind of laughable. Ok, so what if the meaning of the word "gay" changed to "reject" or "defective", because from nature's point of view, thats what being homosexual is right? Then what would you say? "Oh man, this new computer part I got is gay(defective) I better take it back"
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Im actually impressed I caught Xiaou's attention...he didn't understand what I was trying to say so ill just leave it be...everything I said was twisted with the brilliant spin only Xiaou is capable of... :applaud:
I still remember a response you (Xiaou) made in one of my project threads that was completely off base to which i responded correcting you and of course you never acknowledged it...I think it was to do with my 8 way and 4 way CP setup...so it is funny you would actually use that analogy lol.
What would be really nice Xiaou if everything you said didn't sound so threatening and judgemental...Read your response to me carefully and then read my original response and note the difference both in tone and approach...you may learn something in dealing with others.
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