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Has anyone purchased a Ram Controls Lunar Lander Thrust Controller???
shilmover:
--- Quote from: SavannahLion on May 12, 2011, 10:40:16 am ---You have to admit there is no one, no one at all, that offers his reproductions. It's not like what it is between Randy and Andy. Is Randy shafts me, I can go to Andy. If Andy gives me the shaft, I can go to Randy. If they both shaft me, I can go somewhere else. With RAM Controls, my only option is eBay and the less than perfect OEM parts.
RAM Controls can piss off 25%* of the customer base and still walk away with a profit.
*random number.
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Sorry... not buying it... Ask Frizz, I was Dave's biggest supporter until his true colors came out. Sure I just got some of the parts owed to me, but $ is still owed, and I have 2 friends that are out over $2500 each. You guys buying from RAM Controls (Dave, Adam, Dan, whatever... Still RAM Controls) keeps the door open for other people to get screwed. Mark my words, they will get screwed eventually. If you dont think that Dave is in the background, you are really naive and are fooling yourself.
Your argument is similar to one you hear from battered women... "He treats me and my kids like gold... when he's sober. Sure he beats the crap out of me and abuses my daughter... but only when he's been drinking... He is a good man." I call ---That which is odiferous and causeth plants to grow---. Until RAM Controls (not Dave... RAM Controls!) pays back all that is owed, we as a community should not give him a ---smurfing--- dime! We are a community and should stand together. You rip off a member here or on KLOV, all the members here and on KLOV should ban that seller. End of story!
ark_ader:
I have ordered from RAM Controls and I got 100% pure customer service.
Product on time, and when I had an issue - 100% communication.
I cannot explain why the others had issues, but one suggestion comes to mind.
Quality cannot be rushed.
You want it yesterday? Do it yourself.
Now lets please stop with the Ram Controls winging, as there are other threads just ready for your troll.contribution. :angry:
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shilmover:
--- Quote from: ark_ader on May 12, 2011, 11:09:21 am ---I have ordered from RAM Controls and I got 100% pure customer service.
Product on time, and when I had an issue - 100% communication.
I cannot explain why the others had issues, but one suggestion comes to mind.
Quality cannot be rushed.
You want it yesterday? Do it yourself.
Now lets please stop with the Ram Controls winging, as there are other threads just ready for your troll.contribution. :angry:
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Dude. This has nothing to do with "Quality cannot be rushed"...
I am happy that you had no issues with RAM controls. What about the $25k+ that is currently owed to collectors? What about the upcoming lawsuits against Dave & RAM Controls?
Lets look at the Star Wars cockpits, shall we?
Dave posted a pre-order for them and collected money from several people. He then came back and told them that they are ready and collected the rest of the money. In fact, he told me personally that they were done, shipped, and "lost" in transit... then the company being used for shipping went out of business (a company no one very heard of)... After some time, the truth started to come out:
- The person building the cabinets only built a single prototype that was never sent to Dave. Dave used the pictures from that prototype to sell the cabinets
- The people that own the original art screens stated PUBLICALLY that they would NOT run the art for Dave
- The person who had access to the monitors needed for the cockpits stated (again publically) that the original manufacturer was holding them for him when Dave called them posing as the buyer and tried to get the monitors redirected to RAM Controls without paying for them
Again, i am glad you got your $x00 worth of RAM Control parts from them with no issues. Dave does this to get people like you to support him while he screws others for thousands of dollars.
If you really think a bunch of us just got together and decided to spread rumors about Dave and RAM Controls, you are a sad, sad little man...
Bottom line is. Dave = RAM Controls, RAM Controls = Dave. Dave = Crook, liar, thief, etc. People like you buying product from RAM Controls just opens the door for Dave to rip off more people.
If you look at how pyramid schemes work, you have to pay some people some money to keep the scam going. If no one gets paid, the pyramid collapses very quickly, but if you pay a few, you are good.
Hoopz:
--- Quote from: shilmover on May 12, 2011, 12:04:56 pm ---
--- Quote from: ark_ader on May 12, 2011, 11:09:21 am ---I have ordered from RAM Controls and I got 100% pure customer service.
Product on time, and when I had an issue - 100% communication.
I cannot explain why the others had issues, but one suggestion comes to mind.
Quality cannot be rushed.
You want it yesterday? Do it yourself.
Now lets please stop with the Ram Controls winging, as there are other threads just ready for your troll.contribution. :angry:
::)
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Dude. This has nothing to do with "Quality cannot be rushed"...
I am happy that you had no issues with RAM controls. What about the $25k+ that is currently owed to collectors? What about the upcoming lawsuits against Dave & RAM Controls?
Lets look at the Star Wars cockpits, shall we?
Dave posted a pre-order for them and collected money from several people. He then came back and told them that they are ready and collected the rest of the money. In fact, he told me personally that they were done, shipped, and "lost" in transit... then the company being used for shipping went out of business (a company no one very heard of)... After some time, the truth started to come out:
- The person building the cabinets only built a single prototype that was never sent to Dave. Dave used the pictures from that prototype to sell the cabinets
- The people that own the original art screens stated PUBLICALLY that they would NOT run the art for Dave
- The person who had access to the monitors needed for the cockpits stated (again publically) that the original manufacturer was holding them for him when Dave called them posing as the buyer and tried to get the monitors redirected to RAM Controls without paying for them
Again, i am glad you got your $x00 worth of RAM Control parts from them with no issues. Dave does this to get people like you to support him while he screws others for thousands of dollars.
If you really think a bunch of us just got together and decided to spread rumors about Dave and RAM Controls, you are a sad, sad little man...
Bottom line is. Dave = RAM Controls, RAM Controls = Dave. Dave = Crook, liar, thief, etc. People like you buying product from RAM Controls just opens the door for Dave to rip off more people.
If you look at how pyramid schemes work, you have to pay some people some money to keep the scam going. If no one gets paid, the pyramid collapses very quickly, but if you pay a few, you are good.
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Ignore Ark. He's been pissy since Haze hasn't been posting much lately.
I think it's pretty clear that this has turned into a pyramid scheme. Whether it was intended that way or not from the start is not relevant. He got in over his head and can't get out now.
mark shaker:
--- Quote from: mark shaker on May 11, 2011, 08:48:06 pm ---
I'll let you guys know how things go.
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Within 24 hours of placing my order: I received my UPS tracking number and the item was received by UPS.
Delivery is scheduled for Wednesday May 18.
I'll confirm delivery and the quality of the product.
- Mark