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ark_ader:

--- Quote from: shmokes on February 16, 2011, 06:04:21 pm ---Glad I never jumped on iBooks.  It made no sense with the platform agnostic Kindle on the market.  I've already got a bunch of Kindle books which I've read on my Kindle (sold to get the iPad), Blackberry and PC.  I use the Ipad and Blackberry regularly since my wife and I are frequently reading the same books.  Anyway, it's nice to know that when I dump the iPad for an Android or Windows or Blackberry tablet my library will follow me.


Hey Ark . . . here's something fun.  Sony finally released a public statement about the new(ish) PS3 jailbreak:


--- Quote ---"Notice: Unauthorized circumvention devices for the PlayStation 3 system have been recently released by hackers. These devices permit the use of unauthorized or pirated software. Use of such devices or software violates the terms of the 'System Software License Agreement for the PlayStation 3 System' and the 'Terms of Services and User Agreement' for the PlayStation Network/Qriocity and its Community Code of Conduct provisions. Violation of the System Software Licence Agreement for the PlayStation 3 System invalidates the consumer guarantee for that system. In addition, copying or playing pirated software is a violation of International Copyright Laws. Consumers using circumvention devices or running unauthorized or pirated software will have access to the PlayStation Network and access to Qriocity services through PlayStation 3 system terminated permanently.

"To avoid this, consumers must immediately cease use and remove all circumvention devices and delete all unauthorized or pirated software from their PlayStation 3 systems."

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Let's see what they're saying here:

- Jailbreaking violates the system software license agreement?  Check
- Jailbreaking violates the terms of services and user agreements?  Check
- Violating the license agreements voids your warranty?  Check
- Jailbreakers will be banned from PSN?  Check
- Copying/playing pirated software is illegal?  Check Check Check  (three checks seeing as they're going out of their way to tell you what is illegal)
- Jailbreaking is illegal?  Hmm . . . maybe they just forgot to include it.  Probably just an oversight.




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Here is something more fun, Sony allowed the PS3 to dual boot linux, in order to pass the PS3 as a computer, thus making it a tax dodge .  So if they remove this feature , isn't Sony liable for all that tax money as the PS3 isn't deemed a computer anymore, or never intended to be?  Sony did this already with the PS2.  Funny that this facility is still possible with the Fat PS2s.... ::)

I do not know where you got that quote from, but why should a company point out a procedure like jail breaking is illegal, when that fact might not be illegal in the county where the disclaimer declares the act is illegal.  It would be like Microsoft saying that xbox1 mod chips are illegal on a global website accessible in Australia , when it is not illegal in Australia to mod xbox1(s).

I would say that these companies like Apple and Sony do not have to say that circumvention of their copyright devices are illegal, when the country that makes the laws determine if the circumvention is illegal.  Sony or Apple do not have the power to throw you in jail, but the government can if you break the law.  That sounds logical right?  Sony and Apple can sue you for civil damages, which might be worse than facing the slammer.

The DMCA still has teeth in this argument.  It is up to you Shmokes to provide an adequate defense, with references.  Not silly musings that either change the subject (or at least try to) and avoid presenting a factual response.  I do not subscribe to the Ethical Noose suggestion, as Shmokes can change and see the errors of his ways.  I like Ethical Hook better, as we all can get snagged on it.

I yet have to determine if I should wake up a sleeping giant.  :o

shmokes:

--- Quote from: ark_ader on February 16, 2011, 06:50:18 pm ---
I yet have to determine if I should wake up a sleeping giant.  :o


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What do you mean, "yet have to determine?"  You didn't say you were just considering it.  What are you waiting for?

Also, LMAO.  The "quote" was from Sony's own US-specific blog.  Nice try, though.  And by nice try, I mean lol wut?

And I suppose you're right.  Sony does not have to say that jailbreaking is illegal in their official statement telling users not to jailbreak.  Though, they didn't have to say that copying/playing pirated software is illegal.  Didn't stop them from saying that:


--- Quote ---In addition, copying or playing pirated software is a violation of International Copyright Laws.

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ark_ader:

--- Quote from: shmokes on February 16, 2011, 07:04:07 pm ---
--- Quote from: ark_ader on February 16, 2011, 06:50:18 pm ---
I yet have to determine if I should wake up a sleeping giant.  :o


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What do you mean, "yet have to determine?"  You didn't say you were just considering it.  What are you waiting for?

Also, LMAO.  The "quote" was from Sony's own US-specific blog.  Nice try, though.  And by nice try, I mean lol wut?

And I suppose you're right.  Sony does not have to say that jailbreaking is illegal in their official statement telling users not to jailbreak.  Though, they didn't have to say that copying/playing pirated software is illegal.  Didn't stop them from saying that:


--- Quote ---In addition, copying or playing pirated software is a violation of International Copyright Laws.

--- End quote ---



 

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I do see where they deem this circumventing promotes piracy.  Playing backups is not illegal, but the circumvention is deemed to be again via DMCA.

I noticed you fail to enter that debate with the DMCA.  Why is that Shmokes?  Feeling guilty?  :lol


--- Quote ---What do you mean, "yet have to determine?"  You didn't say you were just considering it.  What are you waiting for?
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Good point, glad to know I have your blessings.  It was my only concern. Thanks. 

shmokes:
Oh sweet, holy mary mother of god . . . I haven't entered the DMCA debate?  WTF have we been talking about this whole time?  What exactly do you think the Library of Congress exemptions are exemptions to?

knave:
If Ark has appointed himself "ethics enforcer" and resorts to threats against members he should be banned. We do not need that on this board where we just want to talk about our cool projects and events.

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