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ark_ader:

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--- Quote from: ark_ader on February 12, 2011, 07:03:07 am ---I think if you take the oath, you should abide by it.  Respecting the law as prescribed would be a good starting point.   ::)

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Yeesh.  I hope your cowboy skills are up to par, because that's a mighty high horse you're on.  :cheers:

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And on a forum that is dominated by MAME cabinets?

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You should hit that link too. 

Very interesting reading with regards to obsolete platforms.  ;)

pointdablame:
Every time a legality argument comes up here (which seems to be every week), I can't help but think "those in glass houses...."

Why do you even care if he jailbroke his iPad?  Have you ever downloaded a rom?  Gone over the speed limit?  Crossed the street outside of a crosswalk?  You broke the law.  If you haven't ever broken ANY law, good for you.  You are one in a billion.

The law is the law... until it changes, as it has thousands of times.  Jailbreaking an iPhone wasn't legal in the past, now it is... ok great.  I'm of the strong belief that if I buy a piece of hardware, I can do as I please with it as long as I don't harm others or don't plan to yell at the manufacturer when I ---fudgesicle--- it up.

but hey... everyone loves a nice anonymous internet argument, right?   I'll start the countdown on Godwin's law now....  :dizzy: :angel:

shmokes:

--- Quote from: ark_ader on February 12, 2011, 03:30:40 pm ---
The Constitution of the United States....That should ring some alarm bells in your head.


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Wait . . . jailbreaking is unconstitutional now?  What can I say, con law was a tough class.  I totally missed that part.

By the way, the horse pointdablame referred to was of the metaphorical variety.  I don't think your experience at your brother's Nevada ranch will help you much. 

And yes, I read your link (obviously, based on my response).  And you, obviously, don't know how laws and other legal authority are read and interpreted. 

ark_ader:

--- Quote from: pointdablame on February 12, 2011, 04:00:46 pm ---Every time a legality argument comes up here (which seems to be every week), I can't help but think "those in glass houses...."

Why do you even care if he jailbroke his iPad?  Have you ever downloaded a rom?  Gone over the speed limit?  Crossed the street outside of a crosswalk?  You broke the law.  If you haven't ever broken ANY law, good for you.  You are one in a billion.

The law is the law... until it changes, as it has thousands of times.  Jailbreaking an iPhone wasn't legal in the past, now it is... ok great.  I'm of the strong belief that if I buy a piece of hardware, I can do as I please with it as long as I don't harm others or don't plan to yell at the manufacturer when I ---fudgesicle--- it up.

but hey... everyone loves a nice anonymous internet argument, right?   I'll start the countdown on Godwin's law now....  :dizzy: :angel:

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Oh I agree completely.  But I find this person's post the most amusing.  You see he has not done any research on his topic, just skimmed the internet.  The ruling on Jailbreaking also protects those who perform the service, so if you offer to jailbreak the iphone for a fee you cannot be punished.  But we are not discussing the iphone - we are discussing the ipad.  Totally different fish, under that ruling, and that the OP is a Lawyer is very much amusing.  It is a point of ethics, yes you can do pretty much what you want in life - nobody can stop you.  I just wouldn't be bragging about it on a well known messageboard.

Just in case Apple was reading, and decided to make an example of someone, especially someone who knows the law.  Heaven forbid.

Like I said hit that link, that glass house you refer to might be really made out of plexi.

But we have 3 years, then it might all change again.  ;D


--- Quote from: shmokes on February 12, 2011, 04:18:03 pm ---
--- Quote from: ark_ader on February 12, 2011, 03:30:40 pm ---
The Constitution of the United States....That should ring some alarm bells in your head.


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Wait . . . jailbreaking is unconstitutional now?  What can I say, con law was a tough class.  I totally missed that part.

By the way, the horse pointdablame referred to was of the metaphorical variety.  I don't think your experience at your brother's Nevada ranch will help you much. 

And yes, I read your link (obviously, based on my response).  And you, obviously, don't know how laws and other legal authority are read and interpreted. 

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Really? Well you haven't shown me where it says it is legal to jailbreak your ipad yet.  Did that slip your mind?

Pop quiz:  Why was the Constitution of the United States  created in the first place?  What did it protect in regards to our discussion?


--- Quote ---By the way, the horse pointdablame referred to was of the metaphorical variety.  I don't think your experience at your brother's Nevada ranch will help you much.
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As was mine on the Constitution.   ::)

shmokes:

--- Quote from: ark_ader on February 12, 2011, 04:27:14 pm ---

--- Quote ---By the way, the horse pointdablame referred to was of the metaphorical variety.  I don't think your experience at your brother's Nevada ranch will help you much.
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As was mine on the Constitution.   ::)



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As was your what?  You were referring to a hypothetical constitution, or your brother's ranch was hypothetical?  I sincerely don't know what you're talking about.

And I did tell you where it says jailbreaking an iPad is legal.  When it comes to jailbreaking an iDevice there is nothing significant about the fact that there is a CDMA or GSM chip in it.  For unlocking, yes, for jailbreaking, none whatsoever.  An iPod touch is an iPhone aside from that one little chip.  I, and any competent lawyer, would counsel a jailbreaker that they were almost definitely perfectly safe to jailbreak those devices to their heart's content because it is now defacto legal.  Apple would never sue them (because Apple employs equally competent lawyers who know how to read laws and regs and cases, etc.) and if they did a judge would never side with them because to do so would be to make the law an ass. 

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