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PS/2 has Linux coming? Xbox has it today along with more support from the modding and programming communitys than any device has ever seen before.
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The PS2 has linux out for about $200.
Heres the link to the Hardware section of perchase
http://www.us.playstation.com/purchase/hardware/
The Linux kit info.
http://www.us.playstation.com/hardware/more/SCPH-97047.asp
paigeoliver:
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--- Quote from: jakejake28 on August 22, 2003, 08:48:35 pm ---
--- Quote from: 3dmacman on August 22, 2003, 08:43:24 pm --- Two words, x-Box.
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no more really than ps2, tho.
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I'd call the xbox a pc wanna-be but I wouldn't give that label to a PS2 or gamecube... The hard drive is what sets the xbox apart from every console to this point.
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Sure, the X-Box has a hard drive, but the programmers act like it isn't even there. As far as I have seen it hasn't changed to modern console load time problem one bit. I mean, you would THINK they could install the common menu screens of the game to the hard drive, so it doesn't have to load for 10-20 seconds for each menu screen (GT 2002, or maybe it was 2003 is the specific title I am talking about), but NOOOOO, you have to wait through a bunch of "loading" screens inbetween each and every race. So what is the hard drive for? So you can have 4,976,234,862,389 save games?
Howard_Casto:
That's not true. The xbox hardrive is used extensively, just not for what you are wanting. It's main use is to store the massive expansion packs available for some games through xbox live. Also some games cache the massive levels ahead of time so that the game won't lag.
But, if the game is a multiplatform game then it won't take advantage of it. Why? Because the programmers don't really care and coding a lot of xbox specific code just to decrease load time by a few seconds isn't top priority.
My 2 cents on the debate. Is the xbox a fancy pc? Definately. What about the others? Yup both are. Think of the ps2 as a sony viao and the gamecube as a really cheap mac. You can look it up, the architecture on all three is very computer like. The harddrive point isn't an issue. Nintendo decided to leave theirs out to keep down costs. As posted before sony offers a kit. It's an old timer compared to the other two and the lack of a stock harddrive is signs of that old age.
But people don't make fun as pc consoles are a very good thing. You see third gen consoles are at the point to where pcs can actualy display more impressive graphics than them. Thus using pc parts in future consoles is only natural as they can deliver high performance at a low price. Plus it makes for a fun hack.
paigeoliver:
That makes sense Howard. But those load times just killed the X-Box for me. I grew up on NES, which didn't have load times (but then the SNES started up with those annoyingly long producer logo screens that they made you watch, and sometimes there was like 8 of them).
Frostillicus:
--- Quote from: paigeoliver on September 01, 2003, 06:14:45 am ---That makes sense Howard. But those load times just killed the X-Box for me. I grew up on NES, which didn't have load times (but then the SNES started up with those annoyingly long producer logo screens that they made you watch, and sometimes there was like 8 of them).
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Heh, it it really bothers you, you should install the games to the HD and play them from there...like 20x faster :)
I think it's nothing compared to how slow the PSOne was myself.
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