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SithMaster:
Some of the forum goers here have to deal with snow much more than me (I'm from New Jersey) so for the most part this year it hasn't been overwhelming snowfall.  In my town almost no one thinks parking on the street when its snowing is a bad idea.  They just knock the snow into the street to dig out, put a chair (empty diaper box, garbage can, etc) into "their spot", and don't care that snow plows cannot properly plow the street.  All these people have empty driveways.  Twice already a friend has received notes telling him to not park in "their spot" unless he feels like shoveling the spot for them.  Today my friend and I were approached by a someone who in a word snapped at us after waiting to see who the car belonged to.

Honestly can someone tell me what's right?  I'm sure thinking people are capable of being adult is too much to ask, naive even, but being disrespectful towards a stranger over using a spot on the street (which is public parking unless it requires a permit) because they are being lazy and won't use their driveway.  Its ridiculous.

SavannahLion:

--- Quote from: SithMaster on January 31, 2011, 01:12:33 am ---Honestly can someone tell me what's right? 

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It depends on the code around where you live. Street parking isn't illegal per se. But you'll get an ear full from whomever pays to have that spot plowed (where I lived you had to pay). We used to have to "reserve" our space and tourist ---uvulas--- still parked there anyways. If the plow operator didn't destroy their car the next day, we usually called a tow truck to have the car hauled away.

I lived where ten or twenty feet of snow isn't too uncommon (if it's not a drought year). Parking in the street is actually suicidal. If you're unlucky, it won't be a plow that comes along but a Juggernaut snow blower. It'll chew the ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- out of your car and you'll get a knock on your front door with the operator holding a handful of metal shrapnel that used to be the remains of the car. If you're not home, CalTrans will be more than happy to send you the bill for the repairs on their machine.

If you're lucky, the snow plow operator will be having a bad day and push your car off the side of the road.

Xiaou2:
A spot on the street isnt anyones spot.  They cant lay claim to it... and if they try, tell them to take it up with the cops / legal system.

 The Real problem isnt the people (theres no law that says you have to use the driveway), its the Snowplow issue.  If you park in your driveway, and the snowplows zoom by at night... when you wake, you will have to shovel the 2ft tall bank of snow that the plows left in front of your driveway.

 Most people dont want to wake an hour early to do manual labor in the freezing cold.

 A better solution might be a snowplow that acted more like a snowblower.  Maybe an inverted V, which funneled snow into a center channel, and then spit the snow out a top tube.  A 2nd man would act as a gunner, aiming the snow-cannon to throw the snow in front lawns instead of driveways and sidewalks.

SithMaster:

--- Quote from: SavannahLion on January 31, 2011, 02:03:40 am ---
--- Quote from: SithMaster on January 31, 2011, 01:12:33 am ---Honestly can someone tell me what's right? 

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It depends on the code around where you live. Street parking isn't illegal per se. But you'll get an ear full from whomever pays to have that spot plowed (where I lived you had to pay). We used to have to "reserve" our space and tourist ---uvulas--- still parked there anyways. If the plow operator didn't destroy their car the next day, we usually called a tow truck to have the car hauled away.

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It wasn't permit only for the street?  Though I'm sorta confused. Is this a private street where are all maintenance is paid by only the residents of that street?


--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on January 31, 2011, 03:34:07 am ---A spot on the street isnt anyones spot.  They cant lay claim to it... and if they try, tell them to take it up with the cops / legal system.

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Apparently the guy doesn't know that and went so far as to ban us from parking on the street.  My town seems to be full of jerks so I can imagine the guy turning towards vandalism to get revenge for taking the spot (one that he doesn't even park in).  Guy goes from "Can I have a word" to yelling at us so his rationale state of mind is questionable.

The thing is why not park in the driveway close to the sidewalk so you only have to shovel from the street to the back of your car?  The closer they get to the curb the better.  When I shovel my driveway its maybe 3 feet from the back of the car to the spot the plows cleared.  I go down other streets and the pile goes towards the middle of the street.  Two car road (with room for parking on both sides) to a one lane road with barely enough room to not get your mirrors knocked off by passing cars.

I'd be concerned the snow-blower/plow/tank would still not get close to the curb to let the road be clear enough.  On my side of town it doesn't seem to be as bad, most of the length of my street is two lanes because not many of us park in the street regardless of the weather.  I don't mean to say that I see issue with everyone parking on the street, if its necessary, but from my point of view (which is just opinion) it would make things simpler in the long term.

Doesn't help that what has snowed hasn't melted at all.

CheffoJeffo:

--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on January 31, 2011, 03:34:07 am ---A spot on the street isnt anyones spot.  They cant lay claim to it... and if they try, tell them to take it up with the cops / legal system.

 The Real problem isnt the people (theres no law that says you have to use the driveway), its the Snowplow issue.  If you park in your driveway, and the snowplows zoom by at night... when you wake, you will have to shovel the 2ft tall bank of snow that the plows left in front of your driveway.

 Most people dont want to wake an hour early to do manual labor in the freezing cold.

 A better solution might be a snowplow that acted more like a snowblower.  Maybe an inverted V, which funneled snow into a center channel, and then spit the snow out a top tube.  A 2nd man would act as a gunner, aiming the snow-cannon to throw the snow in front lawns instead of driveways and sidewalks.

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Common practice in many jurisdictions, as are plows that don't dump snow at the end of driveways ... are you saying that you don't have such 30-year-old technology when you guys get so much snow ?

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