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Xiaou2:

abaraba,

1) Im not a programmer, so understanding the inner most workings on your level are not going to happen.  I can understand basic concepts of programming and logic however... so if people can provide a simplistic & logical explanation, I might be better equipped to make an informed judgment.

2) I dont kiss any butts. I merely thanked for the efforts.

3) If there is a problem with his code... just submit the fix / other version.  Im sure the project leader will chose to go with the best solutions.  Especially if there is a well explained reason sent along with it.


--- Quote ---And, why in the world you chose to ignore me when we are on the same side, it's two of us against everybody else, don't you see?
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4) No.  I may fight for better preservation... but this isnt a 2 person -vs- the world thing. A lot more people than 2 wish for better preservation efforts.  

 The spirit in preservation should be cooperation, not selfishness, not ego, not war.

 I pretty much only resort to personal attacks when Im attacked.  Or occasionally to push a button or two.  And I dont continue to keep bashing or attacking.  Eventually, my points get through, not because of what kinds of curses I throw... but because they are on the side of whats best and right.

 While for example, Im not a friend of Haze... it does not mean I hate him.  In fact, hes done some great work over the years.  'Might' be a decent guy in person too.  But his viewpoints are too out-of-touch, skewed, selfish,  ..and he is way too black/white.
Still, I wont keep bashing him every post he makes.   I might toss a few tomatoes at him to make him realize hes missing the boat...  but Im not going to throw rocks at him.

5) Neither Haze nor Derrick are in charge of the Driver Inclusion.  A good submission will be handled by the project leader.

6) Derrick is much more willing and flexible to adding things and helping out than Haze.
While you and him might not completely agree... you might be able to learn and share from each other ... IF... you can calm your attitude down.


Edit:

 To be honest, Im surprised the submission was accepted.   One thing about submitting your hard efforts is that they can be denied.  I believe there are many who wont even attempt to make any big core / input changes... merely because they are fearful that they will be rejected...  and so no progress ever happens, even If that person actually would like to make beneficial changes.


CheffoJeffo:


--- Quote from: abaraba on January 25, 2011, 01:47:04 pm ---Please read this thread and note Derrick's is actually alone by himself in supporting those changes, he lost every argument we had, and even though his friends would like to support him, no one did, which is only natural since it takes just few minutes to actually test and confirm what I am talking about:

http://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=244132&page=0&view=expanded&sb=5&o=&vc=1

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I know that English is not your first language and that your comprehension skills are teh suxxorz, but WTF are you talking about ?

As you were told in that thread -- your knowledge is lacking or outdated.


--- Quote from: abracadabra ---More than two weeks I am trying to explain the simplest thing to you, and all you did was ignore me like that and call me a "Troll", making everyone else hate me, ignore me too or jump all over me with no good reason or explanation, usually having no idea what is really going on. Then when I loose my patience with you, I get to be called jerk again, as if no one really cares what I am actually saying and what is the TRUTH.
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To be clear, I hated you as Driver-Man and Derrick had nothing to do with that.

PS - 60-in-1 boards are illegal!

Xiaou2:


--- Quote ---I hated you
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 You Hate a lot of people.   And thats part of the problem.  You instigate a lot of the pile-on's which cause things to get even more out of hand.

 "Hate" is a Childish response period.

 Your responses are just as Childish as his, and designed to provoke him further.


CheffoJeffo:


--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on January 25, 2011, 02:44:55 pm ---Your responses are just as Childish as his, and designed to provoke him further.

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That's not true -- my responses are far more childish. They are, however, designed to provoke him. I'm glad the nuance wasn't wasted on you.

 :applaud:

FWIW, the choice of 'hate' was a direct tongue-in-cheek response to his blaming Derrick for "making everybody else hate me". I guess I'm not surprised that that particular nuance was wasted on somebody who sees capitalization and punctuation as an exercise in random character placement.

 ::)

You really should read the stuff that he posts, here and elsewhere, and THEN come back and tell me who the problem is.

Derrick Renaud:


--- Quote from: yotsuya on January 25, 2011, 01:49:31 pm ---Are the three days up already? Awwwwwwww....

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Yep and this will be my last post here and on the MAMEworld forums.  Too time consuming to deal with the child that is everywhere on the internet annoying everyone.

One last attempt at real facts:

1. Abaraba keeps saying to put "his" code in and not mine.  First, it is not his code.  He found the code on another site describing MAME's original code.

2. All you have to do is select "Real" in the new code and this code he wishes is there.  No speed hit measurable even on a P2.  Though unless you set the center axis to "None", it will mess up on mouse control.

3. The joystick code that he demands be removed has nothing to do with me.  This code is usefull to some users.  But he keeps saying it is my anal_hack code.  Which is a misnomer anyways.  Anal would be to accurately do something in anal detail, which would better describe:

4.  The new spinner code that accurately emulates the real control using a single axis.  This is better for code testing.  Easier for the end user and no real speed hit.

So he is ranting on for no reason that I can see.

So all in all, as always, he refuses to read/understand any issue and just rambles on, always slightly changing his attacks, all the while saying don't hate me, etc.  All the trademarks of a Troll.

But I have no interest in costant troll attacks, so bye.  Anything I do will be found in the what's new file. Or posted as an update on the forums, but not responded to, except in private to usefull people.

Please contact Abaraba about any questions on the shifter support he is adding.  I will not do anything to conflict with his code.



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