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Rando:
--- Quote from: VanillaGorilla on January 12, 2011, 06:17:21 pm ---if you're over 30, Id say you're gonna like the IL/Suzo/Happ concave style (classic arcade machines had these).
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You had me at over 30...
8BitMonk:
Donkbaca has the main questions you need to answer pegged. I can relate my personal experience...
For my build I went with all Ultimarc Ultralux buttons knowing I wanted illuminated buttons and thinking I didn't care about them being convex/concave or the microswitch.
After much playtime with them I found:
A.) I Don't like the fact that they're convex. Which makes sense I guess since I'm over 30?
B.) Found the microswitch too hard to press.
They are great for the admin buttons (P1, Coin, Pause etc.) especially with the fancy silver shaft/bezel but didn't like them for play. I'm switching them out for GGG Electric Ice 2 buttons with true leaf switches for their concave-ness and hopefully feather touch.
One item Donkbaca missed is budget. Ask yourself what you're willing to spend. Illuminated buttons when you include the LED board(s) can be expensive.
MagicManPA:
Anyone?
I'm running the concave IL buttons from Paradise. I still want concave, but I want something that requires less effort to push.
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--- Quote from: Donkbaca on January 12, 2011, 06:15:31 pm ---3 - how soft do you want them to be? Do you want them to have be mashed? or activated with slightest effort?
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That reminds me, what are the button options for those of us that don't want to mash them? I've got my CP done & the buttons I have require too much effort IMO.
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Dr Zero:
--- Quote from: MagicManPA on January 19, 2011, 03:31:11 pm ---Anyone?
I'm running the concave IL buttons from Paradise. I still want concave, but I want something that requires less effort to push.
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--- Quote from: Donkbaca on January 12, 2011, 06:15:31 pm ---3 - how soft do you want them to be? Do you want them to have be mashed? or activated with slightest effort?
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That reminds me, what are the button options for those of us that don't want to mash them? I've got my CP done & the buttons I have require too much effort IMO.
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Try looking at these, you can just swap out the switches you have for the lighter ones. or you can just go to leafs but that is a whole other can of worms
http://www.paradisearcadeshop.com/3-20-gram-micro.html
I have to start by saying that ALL MICROSWITCHES ARE NOT CREATED EQUAL.....and I learned this the hard way. Our 20 gram switches are the lightest available. Once installed you won't feel the click, or hear it through the control panel, these are soft and smooth. Others may claim that they are "light touch" but ask them what their specifications are, why don't they advertise them? We put our numbers out there, front and center, NO FUZZY MATH!
So how did I end up getting our own custome microswitches made? I ordered a whole bunch of switches from my button supplier, they arrived and they were HORRIBLE. Why? because they required 125-150 grams of force to activate. A little research and a lot of sore fingers later, I found realized that a true arcade micro should be 50-75... So that's easy, just stock up right? One problem, these are pricey, Happ wants 1.00 a switch!!! So I asked Happ who makes their Micros and said screw this, I'm calling them directly, and that is how I got hooked up with Zippy.
Zippy has a whole range of micros, so I decided to have some fun, I wanted to see what a 20 gram micro would feel like, and it felt AWESOME.
BEWARE: many other people who sell micros will not know the activation force of their microswitches, especially on EBAY...do not buy these, I can almost guarantee they will be high force switches. Just to see I ordered from 4-6 different Ebay sellers 3 of whom, after asking, said, "Oh yes of course these are 50 gram". Then when I received the microswitches and tested them with a force meter, they said, "Well you can ship them back and we will refund the switch cost but not the shipping". This is not the way to stand behind a product and not the service you will receive here.
Donkbaca:
+1
I have the 20 microgram switches from paradise arcade. I like them, they are really light and practically silent. My brother in law, who is not a gamer AT ALL, commented on how nice the action was on the switches in my control panel. I would recommend them if you are looking for a responsive, low noise switch