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BadMouth:


--- Quote from: Lilwolf on January 12, 2011, 08:43:53 pm ---Didn't analog+ mame run 720 perfectly?

I have a controller, never hooked it up because I was missing the optics and a few parts could have been updated... And it doesn't fit in my home cabinet.  I then got a refurb kit and never installed it. 

I really should get it out...  I love 720.   Great game!  I used to be able to get all gold medals... but with current controls...  I'm lucky to get a bronze

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See the link in my first post on this thread.  Everything you need to know about interfacing it there.

Paul Olson:

That code won't work in the current version. That was before the state system was added. the original driver mapped LETA0 and LETA1 together, both at 30%. The games in the driver are now also all based on the Paperboy settings, and modified from there when needed. If anyone wants to test it, I will send you my atarisys2.c or a binary. I don't know if it will work as is, but I would appreciate the testing if you can do it.

abaraba:


--- Quote from: SavannahLion on January 12, 2011, 08:12:49 pm ---To be fair.....

Why ask us to downgrade when you should make the effort to lock step with us? To put it simply, go upgrade your ROM and MAME versions.

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I'm not asking you to downgrade but to help me narrow down what, where and when went wrong.

BadMouth established it does not work with latest MAME, great.

Next step is to find where it was working last time so I have reference to both, the latest working code and what I should be looking for when I test it. So, can you help me test mame from 131 up to where the mouse stopped working properly, and I will do what you suggested, ok?


abaraba:


--- Quote from: Lilwolf on January 12, 2011, 08:43:53 pm ---Didn't analog+ mame run 720 perfectly?

I have a controller, never hooked it up because I was missing the optics and a few parts could have been updated... And it doesn't fit in my home cabinet.  I then got a refurb kit and never installed it. 

I really should get it out...  I love 720.   Great game!  I used to be able to get all gold medals... but with current controls...  I'm lucky to get a bronze

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Please do me a favor in order to establish latest working version.


Get plain unmodified binary of mame 131 and run:

mame 720 - mouse


And if you can do the same with version 90, see if both of those work, and whether is one anyhow "better" than the other.



Xiaou2:

# 0.139u3: Aaron Giles moved the old hard-coded EEPROM data out into a file in 720.
# 0.124u3: Aaron Giles removed ancient 720 kludge in the T-11 core. Also added support in the T-11 core for an external vector via irq_callback. Apparently the hardware actually did support this and it is necessary for emulating the BK 0010/11 computer in MESS.
# 0.122u5: Changed M6502 CPU1 clock speed to 1789772 Hz and VSync to 60.096154 Hz.

# 0.85u1: Aaron Giles changed 720' controls to use an analog joystick instead of a dial so that the original controller motion can be replicated. Thanks to MAME Analog+ for the logic.

http://maws.mameworld.info/maws/set/720

 According to Maws, 0,85u1 changed to accept Analog controls as the main way to control 720.  However, Im not sure if the calibration wheel was taken away right at that time.  In fact, it Might have been made as a digital button at one point in time.

 As far as I remember, there was some interesting news about the calibration being added.. but then it wasnt much long after that, the analog stick changes were made.

 Remember, to test the rotation in Any of these builds, make sure to first clear ALL of the mouse inputs to "None".  Then map a single Axis of the mouse to ONE of the inputs (should be X axis).  If the man is not able to rotate a complete 360, then its wrong.  The way it currently works, is that you need to map both x & y to make the gun spin.  Basically acting as a trackball, and not a real spinner.

 Also remember, a lot of people would be upset if there was no way to use the analog stick hack as well... so there should be a way to select either method of control.


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