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JERSEY JACK PINBALL
Vigo:
It's also a matter of looking at any business that takes money without having an actual product with a degree of skepticism.
As for the theme....Wizard of Oz seems a risky copyright to deal with. It is weird that they chose it. It has been a hot spot of copyright debate for a few years now. Partially because many assumed it was public domain, but Warner's litigations made it so it was not the case at all. I think when dealing with movie imagery and music, that is 3 maybe 4 rights holders to deal with. (Sony, Turner, Warner, Garland). I don't know what they did as far as securing rights to make this using music and movie artwork, but with Disney looking successful in their attempts to rake in rights for a possible remake film, it seems like the whole theme could be killed in one stroke of a pen from Disney lawyers. I noticed that on the Jersey Jack artwork, it lists Turner as copyright owner on the artwork, and does list Garland for use of the Dorothy imagery, but I think Warner is the one who gets credited for merchandising rights.
I hope Jersey Jack has their ducks in a row for rights to this theme. I am not assuming otherwise, but when there seems to be so many issues with a really dated copyright, why risk it when an original theme could do way cooler. What is wrong with pinning an almost nude chick on a pinball machine like they used to?
TopJimmyCooks:
--- Quote from: pinballjim on May 15, 2012, 03:21:42 pm --- . . . . making tangible progress. What the hell is that team he assembled doing all day??
:dunno
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They should retire the old guys and get those ladies from the Stern assembly line. I think they showed stock footage of the Stern line in the Tilt documentary and they were wiring playfields at light speed with soldering irons the size of baseball bats, about 3 connections per second. Awesome.
Vigo:
--- Quote from: pinballjim on May 15, 2012, 05:15:26 pm ---That's an interesting concern, Vigo, but there's already a lot of licensed Wizard of Oz coin op stuff.
In fact, wasn't a big part of the reason we got this theme because they (Elaut) had already negotiated the rights for it on the coin pusher?
Ah well, here's to hoping we'll get something besides a bunch of faked mock up photos some day.
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Yeah, that makes complete sense to me. Although the Elaut machine seems to be much more generic and use only one stock image that a cheapo license would seem to have. Being that this machine supposedly is using all sorts or movie imagery, music and horribly butchered movie clips, I have to wonder if Warner really gives away such lax licenses. I think Warner doesn't have control over music either, I think Sony owns that.
A lot of my concern is more that I read way too much copyright news. I see stuff like how the Hobbit pub in UK almost got shut down because of the new Hobbit movie, which has been around since the 70's. It's kinda sucks how previous agreements can get wiped away when a new hand gets dipped into the copyright jar. I personally wouldn't touch Wizard of Oz with a 40 foot pole.
lilshawn:
--- Quote from: TopJimmyCooks on May 15, 2012, 04:51:51 pm ---
They should retire the old guys and get those ladies from the Stern assembly line. I think they showed stock footage of the Stern line in the Tilt documentary and they were wiring playfields at light speed with soldering irons the size of baseball bats, about 3 connections per second. Awesome.
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yeah that and on "How it's made"
and that's why the damn things fall apart every 30 plays. i just went to fix a LOTR pinball 20 minutes ago that i dropped at the location 2 days ago and the damn thing broke already :angry:
yotsuya:
Thanks for the link, lilshawn.
Soldering question- were they dipping the ends of those wires into melted solder to connect them together?
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