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CheffoJeffo:


--- Quote from: ark_ader on January 19, 2011, 11:19:56 am ---
--- Quote from: CheffoJeffo on January 19, 2011, 10:37:19 am ---
--- Quote from: ark_ader on January 19, 2011, 10:24:41 am ---My Senior manager told me once:  Never write a letter, nor send an electronic message that you could compromise yourself or confuse your intended recipient.  As attitude or expressed meanings are difficult to convey on paper.

That rule is difficult to abide by via this medium, but the advice is suitable in this context none the less.

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Sounds to me like he was just telling you not to correspond with people ...  dunno why he would do that ...  :dunno

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One of the many reasons why we have smileys?

I think he was leaning towards communicating verbally about your issues and views, then pen and paper.  It has always helped me in the past.  If in doubt, pick up the phone or don't bother.

He was very much old school, and when he spoke you listened.

But like what I am implying now.  Does, what I type get taken for its merit?  Nope. More ridicule.

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You see ark, that is one of the problems with your communication skills that you miss ... WTF would you preface that with "My Senior manager" ?

Are you trying to impress us that you have had a job where someone in upper management actually spoke to you ?

Or is he Spanish and his surname is "Manager"?

When anybody speaks, I listen.

You just don't happen to do it very well.

 :-\



CheffoJeffo:


--- Quote from: abaraba on January 19, 2011, 11:24:32 am ---
--- Quote from: CheffoJeffo on January 19, 2011, 07:49:47 am ---When your fixes are accepted by the MAMEDevs, THEN talk about your fixes.

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My fixes were refused a priori by Haze and Derrick, look back couple of pages in this thread and see for yourself, plus there was no one interested to test 720 controller - the binary is available for download, as you know.

I made several variants and I gave them a choice to pick any of those solutions, they not only refused to even discuss it, but they were unwilling to just say what kind of solution would they accept at all.

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So, you DIDN'T actually submit the changes officially to MAMEDev, right ?

But you insist that Haze and Derrick don't represent MAMEDev.

So, properly submit your broken-ass patches and we'll see what happens.

Until then, it is the same old crap from you -- "I AM RIGHT. EVERYBODY ELSE IS WRONG. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THIS TO ME?"

 :blah:

saint:


--- Quote from: abaraba on January 19, 2011, 11:27:18 am ---
--- Quote from: saint on January 19, 2011, 07:35:20 am ---
--- Quote from: abaraba on January 19, 2011, 02:54:50 am ---You did the same thing with me here, I have fixes for both 720 and gear shifter games, but you're still falsely asserting to represent MAME team and sending me to fork off - confirming your assertive self-entitlement is still destructive to the project, though it seem to work well for getting unsuspected people kiss your ass and thus unknowingly support YOUR personal agenda while thinking they're supporting MAME team. I wonder when they realize this, how many of them would vote to ban you from here as well.

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Let's be clear that the only way someone gets banned here is by violating my rules of civility and decorum, and Haze has done nothing in that vein. You are on thin ice yourself, he is not.

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Yeah, and I'm laughing.

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Laugh if you want, but follow the forum rules. Thanks.

--- saint


Derrick Renaud:


--- Quote from: CheffoJeffo on January 19, 2011, 11:33:53 am ---
--- Quote from: abaraba on January 19, 2011, 11:24:32 am ---
--- Quote from: CheffoJeffo on January 19, 2011, 07:49:47 am ---When your fixes are accepted by the MAMEDevs, THEN talk about your fixes.

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My fixes were refused a priori by Haze and Derrick, look back couple of pages in this thread and see for yourself, plus there was no one interested to test 720 controller - the binary is available for download, as you know.

I made several variants and I gave them a choice to pick any of those solutions, they not only refused to even discuss it, but they were unwilling to just say what kind of solution would they accept at all.

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So, you DIDN'T actually submit the changes officially to MAMEDev, right ?

But you insist that Haze and Derrick don't represent MAMEDev.

So, properly submit your broken-ass patches and we'll see what happens.

Until then, it is the same old crap from you -- "I AM RIGHT. EVERYBODY ELSE IS WRONG. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THIS TO ME?"

 :blah:

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He definitely lives in his own reality.  Never once did he reply with a valid solution to my proposal of having both the fake and real controls exists at the same time.  He did post some code from another website that removed the fake control and put back in the previous code.  That is not a solution created by him.  He could not even comprehend that my proposal requires you to check if the fake/real ports have changed and send that data, even after Paul told him how.

No need for him to sumbit a patch that we have said multiple times will be refused.
Patch that removes fake joystick in favour of real control = Not accepted.
Patch that makes both exist at the same time = possibly accepted depending on how it was done.
Patch that handles fake/real switching automatically in the input/port/ui = most likely to be accepted.
More of his nonsense derived by not being able to comprehend the facts = ignored.

To be honest, having real/fake 720 controls existing at the same time has drawbacks that would have been exposed if anyone tried to create the code.  I was hoping someone would have tried, so they can see what new problems occur when you try one solution.  Then I would have walked through how to solve the new problems.  The problem being the controls would fight each other unless you set one of the controls to "NONE."

(edited for clarity by adding "existing at the same time ")

yotsuya:

Derrick-

I've actually enjoyed reading/watching your approach, because it's clear you are trying to guide others into finding the solution for themselves. It's too bad they just don't get it.

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