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Hoopz:

I think it's pretty clear that the direction of Mame is set so anyone who wants (certain) changes has to go through another group other than Mamedev.  Haze (and Derrek) have stated how to make changes but it's not the answer that some people want to hear.  That's not the fault of Mamedev.  If you want changes, either put up (code, time or money to have someone do it for you) or shut up.

In reality, the whining from a few sounds exactly like the whining from children when they don't get their way.  My daughter's 2nd grade teacher had a sign in her classroom that told the students not to whine.  We need one here for a couple asshats, I mean d-bags since someone whines about asshats.   :P

ark_ader:

I've deleted all my previous posts, except the first one and the recent exchange.

Now perhaps we can be at least civil to each other from now on.  :cheers:

Vigo:


--- Quote from: Haze on January 18, 2011, 12:26:15 pm ---
--- Quote from: Vigo on January 18, 2011, 12:20:49 pm ---I've spent the entire thread addressing peoples concerns.  He's just resorted to childish bull again.  Saint must have the tolerance of .. a saint ...

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Well I've been addressing them in the sense of explaining them.  Dealing with the concerns.  Maybe it would be fairer to say I've been addressing the community.

The concerns have no real solution within the aims of the project tho, so nothing more can be done, so that is the reply given.

The opposite of addressing them would be to simply ignore everything that is posted, without giving a reason.  That just leads to people not understanding why things have been done tho.  I prefer people to be educated.  At least by explaining why decisions have been made as they have their concerns might become less when they see that the choices made were correct, just not specifically beneficial to them.

Criticism is made, and taken on board, it can't be acted on often because it's based on unsound logic.  However, I've stated elsewhere that I think some of the points made are very good ones, MAME does need to start supporting multi-channel sound, it seems silly not to, especially when it's had multi-monitor, multi-mouse and multi-keyboard support for years now.  The practicalities of it are more difficult tho.  People seem quick to ignore the times I've actually agreed, and would rather focus on continually hammering home a point they've been given countless reasons why is impractical.



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Don't get me wrong, I do understand where you are coming from. It's a hard line to walk, and I do appreaciate a lot of your messages, I personally have learned a lot. Some of the complaints do just need to be resolved with simply explaining the situation.

It other cases though, I would say you are trying to put out a fire with gasoline. Going back to the pages of X2 rants about 720 deticated controls, you did fight it tooth and nail (and I understand why, I had to read those posts too.) It later came out that, yes, its not a bad thing to incorporate into MAME if done correctly. So, I guess my point is a certain degree of openness amid any form of complaint is needed, no matter if the urge to argue comes up.  :cheers:

CheffoJeffo:


--- Quote from: ark_ader on January 18, 2011, 12:38:10 pm ---I've deleted all my previous posts, except the first one and the recent exchange.

Now perhaps we can be at least civil to each other from now on.  :cheers:

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Let me get this straight ... the guy who called Haze on *editing* his threads decides to go all ahigh ?

 :dizzy:

sjbaines:


--- Quote from: Hoopz on January 18, 2011, 12:28:27 pm ---In reality, the whining from a few sounds exactly like the whining from children when they don't get their way.  My daughter's 2nd grade teacher had a sign in her classroom that told the students not to whine.  We need one here for a couple asshats, I mean d-bags since someone whines about asshats.   :P

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I agree.  I think it's perfectly reasonable to make comments, suggestions, requests, and (constructive) criticism of a free project like MAME.  What isn't reasonable though is to point-blank refuse to accept the response when it's not what you want to hear, and to instead just keep on bashing the project, whilst making the same points over and over.

It's clear that there are entrenched positions here. Who is 'right' is irrelevant - this discussion isn't going anywhere, it's just repetition.

   'You get what you get and you don't get upset'



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