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| Paul Olson:
If I remember right, it was changed to simulate the feel of the original stick, which was spun around in a circle. A mouse doesn't give that feel. The controller code was changed in .85u1, so you can dl the .85 source to see what it was originally. If newer versions work with a mouse, what doesn't work with a real controller? It has been a while since I did a fresh MAME install, thanks for reminding me about enabling the mouse. I can't believe I didn't think of that...I didn't even -cc. :) If anyone has a 720 controller, please let me know if you can test it. I'll look at the plans tonight and try to figure out the difference. I think the original code was to save the direction you were facing since a spinner doesn't know position. I'll try to figure something out tonight. What other games have issues with real controls? |
| CheffoJeffo:
--- Quote from: Paul Olson on January 11, 2011, 10:56:27 am ---If I remember right, it was changed to simulate the feel of the original stick, which was spun around in a circle. A mouse doesn't give that feel. --- End quote --- That makes some sense. |
| jerryjanis:
--- Quote from: CheffoJeffo on January 11, 2011, 09:42:23 am ---Interesting ... I just had a look at the plans for the 720 controller to see if there was a reason for this particular change and couldn't see a reason why it wouldn't be handled as a spinner. So, do I understand that it can be handled via "-mouse", so that any of the optical interfaces should work and no changes to MAME are required ? --- End quote --- The 720 joystick is unusual. It acts like a spinner but with additional hardware to keep track of exactly which direction the joystick is pointing in. A second encoder disk is attached to the joystick for this purpose. The second encoder disk only has two notches. The game uses the second encoder disk to determine the direction that the joystick is pointing. Using a mouse or a spinner lacks the directional aspect of the original joystick. Personally, I think that the way the Mame handles it now (as an analog joystick) is an excellent compromise between accuracy vs. usability, and is much better than using a regular spinner or a mouse. |
| CheffoJeffo:
Thanks, I couldn't figure out what the "centering disk" was for. Interesting stuff and apparently more complex than I had considered after looking at the exploded view of the controller. |
| Donkbaca:
Someone should rename the thread "The State of 720 Controls" |
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