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abaraba:


--- Quote from: Haze ---The games DON'T sync to vblank, there are many many games which don't... Having worked in the industry I know the effect, I know what causes is, and there are plenty of developers reluctant to sync to vblank these days, especially on the PS3.

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Ok, believe you, I suppose no one can make their game run at full speed anymore, how embarrassing. You know, there is a proper way to solve both choppiness and tearing in the same time, even with drastic and uneven slowdowns.



--- Quote from: Haze ---You come up with your own BS reasons about why things are done, just as X2 has attempted to do, despite being told, and having things clearly explained by me, one of the people who ACTUALLY BEEN INVOLVED IN MANY OF THE DECISIONS.

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It is about how and why things SHOULD be done, being involved only makes you responsible, not correct.



--- Quote from: Haze ---Which part of 'if you want change, create your own build' do you not understand?

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I made the changes, I want them in mainstream MAME, do you mind?



--- Quote from: Haze ---If you plan on ripping out the control scheme which actually allows me to run and test 720 on a normal PC, which is what 99% of the devs own, I will oppose that change.

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It's a spinner, you can test it with a MOUSE!



--- Quote from: Haze ---If you plan on adding excessive configuration options Aaron will almost certainly oppose / reject your change, he's expressed before he wants to keep command line switches etc. down to a minimum.

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What the ...? I am talking about simple "MAP THE INPUT" thing. Press 'enter' over input control you want to re-map and then press desired key to map it to that key, or move a mouse to assign it to mouse axis (spinner/trackball), or move analog joystick to assign it to analog stick axis, or move 8-way arcade joystick wired via some adapter to whatever PC port to map that micro switch... and whatever else is there. -- Not only there is no need to remove any of those options, but DEFAULT mapping for 720 Degrees should be initialized to "spinner", that's where you DOCUMENT what kind of controls the game cabinet actually used.



--- Quote from: Haze ---As I've said, and will continue to say, the ability to hook up the original controller has nothing to do with the accuracy of the emulation.

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Current MAME documents 720 as using 'analog stick', is that info accurate?

abaraba:


--- Quote from: Haze ---...likewise if YOU want support for original controllers, you should look elsewhere too.

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According to whom, according to what? Says where?

saint:


--- Quote from: abaraba on January 10, 2011, 09:42:19 am ---
--- Quote from: Haze ---...likewise if YOU want support for original controllers, you should look elsewhere too.

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According to whom, according to what? Says where?

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Well, as you seem to be objecting to, the people maintaining the code base. That is what you're objecting to, no?

abaraba:


--- Quote from: saint on January 10, 2011, 10:27:49 am ---Well, as you seem to be objecting to, the people maintaining the code base. That is what you're objecting to, no?

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I want to know where he draws those conclusions from.
He must have confused something, heard something wrong.


How about you, what do you think:
- preservation of a PCB is accurate even without reference to authentic controller?

saint:


--- Quote from: abaraba on January 10, 2011, 11:38:57 am ---
--- Quote from: saint on January 10, 2011, 10:27:49 am ---Well, as you seem to be objecting to, the people maintaining the code base. That is what you're objecting to, no?

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I want to know where he draws those conclusions from.
He must have confused something, heard something wrong.


How about you, what do you think:
- preservation of a PCB is accurate even without reference to authentic controller?

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I think if I don't like the direction MAME is heading I'll look elsewhere or try my hand at coding it myself. I'll even go so far as to plead my case as to what I wish they'd do. I wouldn't present myself with a sense of entitlement and demand they do what I want or tell them they're wrong. Whether or not they're meeting their stated goals is a subjective opinion.

Troll-be-gone.


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