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HaRuMaN:
How about Alien Resurrection?   :puke  Or AVP, for that matter...   :banghead:

Xiaou2:
Star Wars Prequels - Horrible actors, Horrible CGI (everything too clean, and characters that both looked & animated horribly.), horrible writing (kid had the greatest streak of dumb-LUCK in history).  I saw Ep1 at theater & wanted to walk out, & the others I only caught on tv when nothing was on. What a massive pile of Crap. 

 Lucus proves that he cant be in full control of any project.  The Originals were far superior in every way possible, because many more talented people had say in things.

Indiana Jones 4 - Huge disappointment, on one of my fav series. I wont see any more of them if they come out.  Similar issues: Horrible Actor (indys son), horrible CGI aliens that some 10yr old could have made look better, Crystal that Bends?! Get real. Swinging from vines to catch up to a speeding van?! Well beyond a chance of believability, and it added nothing but "facepalm" to the film.

 Its simply amazing though... cause even Harrison Ford (who could just about turn poop to gold)  couldnt save this almighty brown turd.

Terminator 4 -  T2 was one of my Favs.  T3 was a cheesy blatant attempt to copy what made T2 a hit... and fell completely flat in every way.  The main problem being that Whiny little wench "John Conner".  His female com-padre was god-awful too.  Even that new 'Hot' looking terminator could save that rotten seafood fest.
Im gagging just thinking back upon it.

 Which brings me to T4.  Didnt bother.  T3 was such a stinker, there was no way Id pay to see it.  I wont even bother to Pirate it, just to say Ive seen it.

Die Hard 4 - I thought it was Ok.
New Star Trek - Pretty good, but it was too much about introduction rather than juicy movie material. Good cast.

Batman Begins - I liked these. But, I hated the change in Batmans voice in the later film. Good casting.

Superman Returns - I never liked Superman. Its a Stupid concept. The guy is way too powerful to create much of a challenge for.  I only saw this movie because it had parts in 3d... and sadly, the 3d they did was very poor quality at that time.
The movie was ok.  I like that they left the possibility of much weaker half-superman.  If the father dies... at least the son might make for a much better set of superman films... where there is actually a lot more danger for the Hero.

Nightmare on Elm Street - Ive watched almost all of these... and liked most of them...excluding #2.  However, I have not seen the latest reboot, and doubt I will. The trailer w/ the new freddys voice is downright wretched.  Sounds sorta like a drowsy nasally Clint Eastwood. (does not fit the part)
The crappy CGI scenes also turned my stomach. The original latex/lighting/puppetry stuff was 1000x better than that Crappy low-level CGI.

 Nightmare #1 was still the Best of them.  Doubt there will be another that will ever top it.

Bootay:

--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on December 16, 2010, 10:05:54 am ---Star Wars Prequels - Horrible actors, Horrible CGI (everything too clean, and characters that both looked & animated horribly.), horrible writing (kid had the greatest streak of dumb-LUCK in history).  I saw Ep1 at theater & wanted to walk out, & the others I only caught on tv when nothing was on. What a massive pile of Crap. 

 Lucus proves that he cant be in full control of any project.  The Originals were far superior in every way possible, because many more talented people had say in things.

Indiana Jones 4 - Huge disappointment, on one of my fav series. I wont see any more of them if they come out.  Similar issues: Horrible Actor (indys son), horrible CGI aliens that some 10yr old could have made look better, Crystal that Bends?! Get real. Swinging from vines to catch up to a speeding van?! Well beyond a chance of believability, and it added nothing but "facepalm" to the film.

 Its simply amazing though... cause even Harrison Ford (who could just about turn poop to gold)  couldnt save this almighty brown turd.

Terminator 4 -  T2 was one of my Favs.  T3 was a cheesy blatant attempt to copy what made T2 a hit... and fell completely flat in every way.  The main problem being that Whiny little wench "John Conner".  His female com-padre was god-awful too.  Even that new 'Hot' looking terminator could save that rotten seafood fest.
Im gagging just thinking back upon it.

 Which brings me to T4.  Didnt bother.  T3 was such a stinker, there was no way Id pay to see it.  I wont even bother to Pirate it, just to say Ive seen it.

Die Hard 4 - I thought it was Ok.
New Star Trek - Pretty good, but it was too much about introduction rather than juicy movie material. Good cast.

Batman Begins - I liked these. But, I hated the change in Batmans voice in the later film. Good casting.

Superman Returns - I never liked Superman. Its a Stupid concept. The guy is way too powerful to create much of a challenge for.  I only saw this movie because it had parts in 3d... and sadly, the 3d they did was very poor quality at that time.
The movie was ok.  I like that they left the possibility of much weaker half-superman.  If the father dies... at least the son might make for a much better set of superman films... where there is actually a lot more danger for the Hero.

Nightmare on Elm Street - Ive watched almost all of these... and liked most of them...excluding #2.  However, I have not seen the latest reboot, and doubt I will. The trailer w/ the new freddys voice is downright wretched.  Sounds sorta like a drowsy nasally Clint Eastwood. (does not fit the part)
The crappy CGI scenes also turned my stomach. The original latex/lighting/puppetry stuff was 1000x better than that Crappy low-level CGI.

 Nightmare #1 was still the Best of them.  Doubt there will be another that will ever top it.

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I could agree with most of what you said, although I would give Terminator 4 a chance. It is much better than T3. In my opinion it wasn't that bad. It is not anywhere as good as the first 2 though. And the CG Arnold scene is just odd looking, but it is worth watching once.

Vigo:



--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on December 16, 2010, 10:05:54 am ---Star Wars Prequels - Horrible actors, Horrible CGI (everything too clean, and characters that both looked & animated horribly.), horrible writing (kid had the greatest streak of dumb-LUCK in history).  I saw Ep1 at theater & wanted to walk out, & the others I only caught on tv when nothing was on. What a massive pile of Crap. 

 Lucus proves that he cant be in full control of any project.  The Originals were far superior in every way possible, because many more talented people had say in things.

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I have to agree that poor use of CGI has soured a number of movies for me. Star wars prequels is the biggest of these. It's like these filmmakers think that we will be dazzled by their CGI, and forget how horrible the plot is. For most of us, muppets and latex makeup look much cooler than superimposed cartoon aliens running around the place. LoTR did it right with their special effects, CGI should be more reserved for the things that you can't easily make by other means.


--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on December 16, 2010, 10:05:54 am ---Indiana Jones 4 - Huge disappointment, on one of my fav series. I wont see any more of them if they come out.  Similar issues: Horrible Actor (indys son), horrible CGI aliens that some 10yr old could have made look better, Crystal that Bends?! Get real. Swinging from vines to catch up to a speeding van?! Well beyond a chance of believability, and it added nothing but "facepalm" to the film.

 Its simply amazing though... cause even Harrison Ford (who could just about turn poop to gold)  couldnt save this almighty brown turd.

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Totally agree, but I don't think they even gave Harrison Ford the opportunity to fix the movie, they destroyed the Indy character too much by making him a confused old coot who never knew what was going on.  :'( Indy was more along the lines of "bringing Grandpa along for the ride"


--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on December 16, 2010, 10:05:54 am ---Superman Returns - I never liked Superman. Its a Stupid concept. The guy is way too powerful to create much of a challenge for.  I only saw this movie because it had parts in 3d... and sadly, the 3d they did was very poor quality at that time.
The movie was ok.  I like that they left the possibility of much weaker half-superman.  If the father dies... at least the son might make for a much better set of superman films... where there is actually a lot more danger for the Hero.

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This is my big disagreement, I think the superman concept is absolutely great. It really has a resonance of Greek Mythology to me. I think if they made a movie about a "captain wonderful" who couldn't be beat, yeah, it would be lame. Superman is different though. It has the right pieces in place to make it not about his powers, but his character.
 
Here we have someone who is superior in every way possible, and has the means possible to take over or destroy the world, yet selflessly devotes himself to protect it. He does not even abuse his powers enough to score with Lois Lane. The interest is in what makes this person defy all corruption, how enemies can find an Achilles heel in even someone who seems invincible, and how more often than not, it is not just his powers that give him the true advantage.

The thing is, superman is not just another comic book hero, Superman has that symbolic legend status, and I don't care about what his kid could do because he is weaker, nor even care to see Superman have a kid.

javeryh:
T4 was pretty good.  Way better than T3.  I also like Die Hard 4.

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