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Most disappointing movie franchise reboot? Pick Two
Rick:
--- Quote from: Bootay on December 14, 2010, 02:28:11 pm ---I personally thought all of the Punisher movies sucked, but the last one at least had the spirit of The Punisher, in the fact that it was very violent unlike the previous ones. The Thomas Jane one was awful...especially the part where he strategically placed an explosive under each car in the parking lot so when he detonated them it formed The Punisher skull...WTF was that all about?
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How DARE you, sir! Insult the good name of Tom Jane, will you? Fisticuffs at high noon!
;D
Seriously, the movies weren't for everyone. I, personally, didn't like the 'new' origin story of The Punisher in the second movie, but thought they pulled it out pretty well. I enjoyed the inserted Garth Ennis storyline, even though they massaged it a little bit. I watched the 'extra features' on the DVD, and the budget was severely hacked (thanks a lot, Avi Arad) and they were only given a small percentage of what other comic book movies were given. Even with that, they had a fantastic director in Jonathan Hensleigh and in the musical score by Carlo Siliotto.
--- Quote from: Wikipedia ---Before filming began, Hensleigh was not given the budget he wanted or needed from the studio. Hensleigh knew that most action pictures get a budget of around $64 million. He was only given a $15 million shooting budget for the film,[1] and only 52 days to shoot the film, which is half the time allocated for most action pictures. Most of Hensleigh's original script had to be edited and re-written many times due to budget issues. According to the DVD commentary, the first scene in the film would have been a battle set in Kuwait during the Gulf War, but they were unable to film this scene as a result of the budget cuts.
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Personally, I enjoyed the story overall - albeit, being a huge Punisher fan (I have 95% of the comics) I would have liked a different backstory. I thought the weakest character was played by John Travolta. Everybody else played a strong part, especially the scene with Kevin Nash as The Russian. (It was great - nice and over the top, and true to the comic.) Travolta - who HAS been known to be a GOOD actor in some roles - was just... ...weak.
Bootay:
I would agree that the part with Kevin Nash as the Russian was good. Probably the only really good highlight of that movie. And yes Travolta was awful in that movie as well.
PinballJim: LOL @ the puppets and trashcans comment.
And it also bugged me that all of the technology seemed so much stronger in the prequels than in the original series. Did new breaks in technology cease after the Empire took over or something? Another thing I didn't like was how they tried to connect everything and every character. Or showed them as kids. Anakin building C3PO was stupid and unnecessary, the pussification of Boba Fett by showing him as a kid and giving him a backstory was sacrilege. The fact that stormtroopers are actually clones of Boba Fett's dad is stupid. I would have enjoyed the clone story much more if it were some unknown character. I could go on and on, but they are still entertaining movies if you ignore all the stupid crap. And yes I also hated it when they announced that Leia was Luke's sister in Return of the Jedi. It was fine and groundbreaking when they did it with Luke and Vader being related back in the day, but to try and pull it off again in ROTJ was just lame in my opinion.
Rick:
--- Quote from: Bootay on December 14, 2010, 03:58:10 pm ---And it also bugged me that all of the technology seemed so much stronger in the prequels than in the original series. Did new breaks in technology cease after the Empire took over or something? Another thing I didn't like was how they tried to connect everything and every character. Or showed them as kids. Anakin building C3PO was stupid and unnecessary, the pussification of Boba Fett by showing him as a kid and giving him a backstory was sacrilege. The fact that stormtroopers are actually clones of Boba Fett's dad is stupid. I would have enjoyed the clone story much more if it were some unknown character. I could go on and on, but they are still entertaining movies if you ignore all the stupid crap. And yes I also hated it when they announced that Leia was Luke's sister in Return of the Jedi. It was fine and groundbreaking when they did it with Luke and Vader being related back in the day, but to try and pull it off again in ROTJ was just lame in my opinion.
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You missed a glaring one. Holy hell, when did R2D2 FORGET HOW TO FLY?! Might have been helpful in 4-6, don't you think?
Benevolance:
Everyone knows Blizzard nerfed the R2 models after release patch v1.337.
javeryh:
--- Quote from: Rick on December 14, 2010, 04:05:14 pm ---You missed a glaring one. Holy hell, when did R2D2 FORGET HOW TO FLY?! Might have been helpful in 4-6, don't you think?
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Didn't they wipe the memories of R2 and C3PO at the end of Ep3 because C3PO doesn't recognize Tatooine in Ep4 (where he was built!)??? That was pretty bad.
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