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bitbytebit:
--- Quote from: Quinny on December 09, 2010, 10:48:55 am ---
--- Quote from: bitbytebit on December 09, 2010, 10:29:43 am ---This new way I'm doing the output hopefully will work, you'll need to test it and might be some issue with the grub command line. I'm trying to do things where the first output is the only one used, and choosing the specific output which can be DVI/VGA or TV. I am seeing yours is DVI-I-1: from your logs, so on this new grub menu there will be a [PAL DVI Output] option. That way the other TV one will be for S-Video type setups. What this will do is get what your seeing now most likely even if your other monitor was connected originally, since it seems that as your seeing the whole xrandr setup only really works if only one 'monitor' for the mode switching is attached/enabled. It seems in X Windows the two video outputs of the card are always combined together with modeswitching like we are doing and also very tricky to tell which one your actually using actively. So that should explain what you saw before, and now, which hopefully I've made this become less tricky to figure out with the way I'm turning off all other outputs besides the main one for the arcade/TV monitor.
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Just from what I noticed. With the AVGA 3000, it has a VGA port and DVI port. The VGA port is the only one that can be used with an arcade monitor/TV. The DVI one is only for computer monitors. With both connected, the computer monitor (DVI port) is DVI-1 and the TV is DVI-0. With only the TV connected (VGA port) it shows up as DVI-1. So I am not sure if this confusion will impact on what you are doing.
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Yeah I'm right now hoping that I can have a DVI and VGA option on the grub menu, DVI being the default. Since in theory a user with the AVGA card can see the grub menu in every situation but the other ATI cards the user won't always and most of the time would have the DVI as the first input (also I think it'll still be viewable but just doubled possibly.
The odd part that is trick is the DRM stuff uses different names, so DVI-I-1 in DRM is DVI-0 in Xorg, and VGA-1 DRM is VGA-0 in Xorg. Besides that, there might be some other inconsistency and I'm not sure how the order matches for each either. Definitely sounds there might be some oddness with figuring that out if they show up differently like that. Which is something I'm guessing we'll have to work out and hopefully eventually get things to where we can logically setup all the different possible combinations and know what DRM layer output to use and what Xorg output to isolate and disable all the rest.
bitbytebit:
There are new .iso files out, hopefully solve the missing xorg.conf issues and get the desktop to work.
Also I have gotten a usb stick and can boot it off that now, so good news there. The steps I took to do this were...
1. create ext2 partition on drive
2. copy over .iso contents to partition
3. go into /boot/grub/ and rm menu.lst and symlink it to grub.conf
4. check to see what drive the partition is on the system, mine is /dev/sdd2 for example
5. edit the /boot/grub/grub.conf file to have cdroot=/dev/sdd2 (or your partition name for the usb drive)
6. use the grub command, following this basically http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/grub_intro,
where you run `grub find /boot/grub/stage1`, figure out the order and which one is your usb sticks partition
then run `grub` and in the grub prompt type something like `root (hd3,1)` which was the one for my /dev/sdd2,
and then `setup (hd3)` to put grub into the master boot record of the usb stick partition.
After that, it boots up from the usb stick, and then it's just the task to copy over to the usb stick each new version it seems.
How are you trying to boot it, I suspect the main issue is the 'cdroot=/dev/XXX` part and getting the correct drive name.
I am not sure how to make that more generic, like the /dev/cdrom drive is easy usually to find while for USB drives (at least
from what I can tell) the names always some disk drive and can vary per system.
bitbytebit:
Newest ISO has the ATI Radeon page flipping support:
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-ati/commit/?h=kms-pflip&id=69639ef377a9d6701cdef902f8a1c5e0b58cf833
32 bit Minimal ISO is uploaded and 64 bit to follow in a few hours
Performance looks good, there is an issue with non-updating screen parts getting frame buffer junk data in them sometimes with vertical games. I've notified the AMD guy who is the author of the page flipping code, so that'll be fixed hopefully soon, but right now it's quite nice performance and non-tearing capability better than the plain OpenGL Mesa waitvsync stuff I had been using.
emphatic:
--- Quote from: bitbytebit on December 10, 2010, 10:06:12 am ---Also I have gotten a usb stick and can boot it off that now, so good news there. The steps I took to do this were...
1. create ext2 partition on drive
2. copy over .iso contents to partition
3. go into /boot/grub/ and rm menu.lst and symlink it to grub.conf
4. check to see what drive the partition is on the system, mine is /dev/sdd2 for example
5. edit the /boot/grub/grub.conf file to have cdroot=/dev/sdd2 (or your partition name for the usb drive)
6. use the grub command, following this basically http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/grub_intro,
where you run `grub find /boot/grub/stage1`, figure out the order and which one is your usb sticks partition
then run `grub` and in the grub prompt type something like `root (hd3,1)` which was the one for my /dev/sdd2,
and then `setup (hd3)` to put grub into the master boot record of the usb stick partition.
After that, it boots up from the usb stick, and then it's just the task to copy over to the usb stick each new version it seems.
How are you trying to boot it, I suspect the main issue is the 'cdroot=/dev/XXX` part and getting the correct drive name.
I am not sure how to make that more generic, like the /dev/cdrom drive is easy usually to find while for USB drives (at least
from what I can tell) the names always some disk drive and can vary per system.
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I have a working system, so I thought about giving this a try on the liveCD, but install it on an USB card. I am a total noob when it comes to Linux, so I am a bit confused about the 3-6 steps. I managed to install the XBMC Live CD without any issues on a 8 GB memory stick I have by simply choosing it as the target harddrive after choosing to "Install to harddrive" in the boot menu. Is that menu not available when using your release?
bitbytebit:
--- Quote from: emphatic on December 28, 2010, 03:35:39 pm ---
--- Quote from: bitbytebit on December 10, 2010, 10:06:12 am ---Also I have gotten a usb stick and can boot it off that now, so good news there. The steps I took to do this were...
1. create ext2 partition on drive
2. copy over .iso contents to partition
3. go into /boot/grub/ and rm menu.lst and symlink it to grub.conf
4. check to see what drive the partition is on the system, mine is /dev/sdd2 for example
5. edit the /boot/grub/grub.conf file to have cdroot=/dev/sdd2 (or your partition name for the usb drive)
6. use the grub command, following this basically http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/grub_intro,
where you run `grub find /boot/grub/stage1`, figure out the order and which one is your usb sticks partition
then run `grub` and in the grub prompt type something like `root (hd3,1)` which was the one for my /dev/sdd2,
and then `setup (hd3)` to put grub into the master boot record of the usb stick partition.
After that, it boots up from the usb stick, and then it's just the task to copy over to the usb stick each new version it seems.
How are you trying to boot it, I suspect the main issue is the 'cdroot=/dev/XXX` part and getting the correct drive name.
I am not sure how to make that more generic, like the /dev/cdrom drive is easy usually to find while for USB drives (at least
from what I can tell) the names always some disk drive and can vary per system.
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I have a working system, so I thought about giving this a try on the liveCD, but install it on an USB card. I am a total noob when it comes to Linux, so I am a bit confused about the 3-6 steps. I managed to install the XBMC Live CD without any issues on a 8 GB memory stick I have by simply choosing it as the target harddrive after choosing to "Install to harddrive" in the boot menu. Is that menu not available when using your release?
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Using the USB card as an install target should work, it has an option after setup to install to disk drive which could be a usb card. The grub setup part is not fully user friendly yet, basically it installs the MBR to the device you want to boot from. The liveCD for now probably is best since the USB method isn't well tested, I got it to work but admit the grub setup was a bit painful. Most distributions definitely make this much easier, there is a generic ISO to USB installer program Ubuntu and others can use which might just work: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/downloads/Universal-USB-Installer/Universal-USB-Installer.exe
I think the USB installer is probably the best bet, seems like it'll probably work, I'm not sure though since I haven't tested it but worst case probably just fail at installing to the USB card. Would be interested in how it goes, I'm hoping that USB installer works, or possibly do the USB installer first then after that do a install to disk through the CD because the USB installer might just do the Grub part for you and make it bootable ahead of time.
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