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Getting a new control panel made
Xiaou2:
--- Quote ---but anyone else would be so overwhelmed when approaching your control panel that they would not know where to begin.
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Why would that matter? Is he selling it? Is he leaving it unattended in masses of people who he barely knows?
Realistically, its his machine, and anyone who plays with it is probably playing with him, who can be instructed if/as needed. It does not take rocket science to understand arcade controls. (and many people only play what games they know)
--- Quote ---Replace your joysticks with U360 joysticks because of their versatility. 2 way, 4 way, 8 way, analog, diagonal, etc. They should fit all your needs.
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This is personal opinion. Real 4ways feel and react much better than all-in-one solutions. Its pretty much the same with any all-in-one solution... there is lacking somewhere. If all in one was the best solution... then golfers would only ever use One single club. Sure, it might be easier to carry one club... but, where performance, control, accuracy, etc... are concerned, no all-in-one club can match a full spectrum of clubs.
If You dont feel accuracy and control is worth the expense of the Look... then that is your Opinion, based on your level of skill, depth of passion, and or experience with correct & or superior controls.
(Some people could play a round of golf with a putter, and they simply wouldnt care either way... cause they dont do well, nor care about doing too well)
--- Quote ---Tron - use the player 2 joystick and the spinner.
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Many people cant play tron past the 1st level. Trons joystick being specialized to make diagonals hard so that the light cycle stage isnt a total disaster.
Not only that... but there are many great Trigger stick games which you would lose if all you had was an 8way.
--- Quote ---Defender - use the player 1 joystick in 2 way mode
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A typical Defender 2way has a short throw by means of leverage. Using an 8way, and you have to move the stick much further in each direction... meaning slower reaction times on a Lighting fast game. Also, if you accidentally hit in a non-2way direction, it feels wrong.. and causes some delay as well.
--- Quote ---Missile Command - trackball and 3 buttons from player 1
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I agree with this... unless he is getting original cone buttons.
mytymaus007:
wow...that is an interesting choice for control panel layout. i'm sure it makes sense to you, but that is very confusing to look at. I hope you have some kind of diagram or something to explain to people what all of those controls are for....everything seems to be laid out so randomly. i'm not trying to be rude, you clearly had a plan on what you wanted to accomplish....i just can't tell what that was. to me, arcade games are awesome because of their simplicity. anyone can walk up to an arcade game, insert a coin and pretty much figure out what to do in a matter of a few seconds. I for one like to keep my mame panels as clean as possible, so that someone who has never seen my cabinets can walk up and start playing with very little instruction, and that it is simple enough so when they come back the second time, i don't have to go over everything again. that panel gives me nightmares.
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Simplicity Since when were arcade games ever simple. I guess playing Asteroids with a joystick and a 6 button layout is simple which button is fire thrust or hyperspace Should i pucs up for thrust HAHAHA Oh good luck playing Defender OR even Stargate (Defender 2) LOL HMmmmm Let me think Ok let play pacman When the stick is off the Left or Right or even with an 8 way stick. How do you switch the 8 way to 4 way or a 45 degree angle. Sounds difficult if I have no idea about arcades. If simple is it then i would think to have a specific joystick for each typre of game would sum it up. WAIT I got "X Arcade" simple enough :lol
mytymaus007:
--- Quote from: arzoo on November 02, 2010, 08:56:11 am ---Defender almost requires a dedicated cp layout to play well. At a minimum, you need to move the left thumb button (Reverse) very close to the joystick and the joystick should have a very short shaft.
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As long as you have the button layout and the reverse next the joystick which I do it doesnt have to be a short stick I have 8 way Wicos it plays awesome
mytymaus007:
--- Quote from: cmoses on November 02, 2010, 10:54:08 am ---pinballwizard79,
I have never been a big fan of the type of control panel you are contemplating. I understand that you are trying to recreate as many original layouts as possible to give you the best gaming experience, but I think that in doing so you are actually doing just the opposite. You may understand what all the buttons, joysticks, flight sticks and spinners do, but anyone else would be so overwhelmed when approaching your control panel that they would not know where to begin. Even though you are trying to recreate some specific layouts, Tron, Defender, Asteroids, Missile Command your really not. Tron - probably the closest recreation, flight stick and spinner, but their placement is different from actual control panel. Defender - no 2 way joystick, button layout close but still not accurate. Asteroids - button layout close but still not accurate. Missile Command - smaller trackball, buttons too close to trackball and not cone style.
I also think that cleaner and simpler is better. I think your current layout is fine and would accomplish everything you want with maybe a few minor tweaks. Replace your joysticks with U360 joysticks because of their versatility. 2 way, 4 way, 8 way, analog, diagonal, etc. They should fit all your needs. Move the spinner more into the middle but not above the trackball. With these minor changes you can do the following. Tron - use the player 2 joystick and the spinner. Defender - use the player 1 joystick in 2 way mode and the player 1 buttons for the other functions. Asteroids - Option 1: use player 1 joystick for rotate left and right and 3 player 1 buttons for other functions. Option 2: use 2 of player 1 buttons for rotate left and right and 3 of player 3 buttons for other functions. Missile Command - trackball and 3 buttons from player 1. This keeps the control panel simple, yet still gives you the ability to play all your games without having a lot of extra buttons on there that are only used for 1 or at most a few games.
No control panel will be able to replace all the options that are out there. But keeping them simple makes for a better cleaner looking machine. Makes it easier for new people to learn your machine, there is always a learning curve no matter what. As far as the cup holders, I really don't think they belong on a control panel, but to each their own. I just think you are asking for trouble with liquid that close to your control panel. Spills are inevitable and could be costly.
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pinballwizard79, i think you should forget about MAME and Just buy dedicated cabs to make everyone happy All in all you'll make it very simple not over welming for anyone and also have the correct layouts the way the games are supposed to be played!
mytymaus007:
No control panel will be able to replace all the options that are out there. But keeping them simple makes for a better cleaner looking machine. Makes it easier for new people to learn your machine, there is always a learning curve no matter what. As far as the cup holders, I really don't think they belong on a control panel, but to each their own. I just think you are asking for trouble with liquid that close to your control panel. Spills are inevitable and could be costly.
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Enough with the simple and clean look How about no control panel at all Just 2 game pad dangleing down. Awsome anyone can use those. I even have a better idea Let's Order the book "CONTROL PANEL for DUMMIES" book #1 seller :banghead: