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First Project: MegaTokyo MAME!!
Aithos:
lol, I had this thread posted for days before I posted in his thread. And what I meant in this thread is I need a physical cable to hook from my video card to the monitor. I'd rather not spend the time making one myself since it isn't something I enjoy. I don't like doing physical electrical work, same reason I'm not going to do a cap kit on my monitor after I yank it out of there, I don't solder stuff. I wasn't referring to settings, I have two options for software: soft 15khz or I can plug in custom resolutions through the nvidia control panel (which I have full listings of thanks to various websites). At any rate, I already deleted my other posts and I apologized for the way I worded my post. It wasn't how I wanted it to come off but I'm not changing my opinion. I still don't like the way it is worded and nothing short of it being changed will change my mind. I stated several times previous to deleting my other posts: I don't have a problem with Andy, his products, his prices or anything else. I actually have a lot of respect for him in other regards, I just HATE the way his card is presented/marketed. I can't say it any more clearly than that, if people have a problem with that then it is just too bad. I do find it amusing though that people who agree with me send me PMs and the people who defend him post in the thread, lol.
JustMichael:
--- Quote from: Aithos ---It is upsetting to me when people try to take credit for something that isn't their work, when they say something is something that it isn't, or when information can be construed as misleading and deceitful.
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You really have absolutely NO clue as to the amount of work that AndyWarne put into his video cards. Exactly what information is misleading or deceitful? All the information looks fine to me. If any of the information is inaccurate I am sure AndyWarne would correct it just as soon as he is notified of the inaccuracy.
--- Quote from: Aithos ---That card is named something that it isn't
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The name "ArcadeVGA" makes me think I can output a vga image to a arcade monitor. The card seems to do this just fine. I supposed you would complain that all the Chevy Nova's don't explode like a sun at the end of their life? Speaking of exploding, the Ford Pinto's were known for an exploding gas tank. Should they have been named Ford Nova's instead?
--- Quote from: Aithos ---he doesn't give credit to the manufacturor,
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I would think that the big ATI sticker in the middle of the fan on the picture of the card would tell you it is based on a ATI chipset card? Also right above the picture he states: "Performance Enhanced RV630 512Mb Version"
Both of these things tells me that this is a modified ATI RV630 reference card.
--- Quote from: Aithos ---he makes it sound on his website like it is a specially made card FOR arcade monitors when it is not and people can flame me all they want it is my opinion and belief and I have seen nothing to the contrary.
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Considering the differences Andy outlines on the FAQ page for his card, it sure makes it sound like he took a standard ATI chipset and created "a specially made card FOR arcade monitors". Can the card only be used with arcade monitors? No, thankfully. It is sure a lot easier to do most of the setup and testing of the frontend and Mame on a pc monitor.
--- Quote from: Aithos ---All it would take for me to be happy is the actual brand, model and modifications listed in plain english on the webpage. in Nvidia terms if it's a: BFG Nvidia GeForce 7800GTX with a modded rom chip and custom bios then that is what I want to see on the webpage, it is accurate and truthful.
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Why not ask BFG to list on their webpage what modifications they did on their version of the Nvidia 7800 GTX compared to the reference Nvidia 7800 GTX card? Andy tells more on his FAQ page for his card than BFG ever will. I wouldn't be at all surprised if a lot of the stuff you want to know is covered under a NDA (Non-Disclosure Agreement).
--- Quote from: Aithos ---He isn't soldering these parts together himself,
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So? BFG didn't solder the parts themselves (it was outsourced to factories in China).
--- Quote from: Aithos ---he isn't making custom drivers from scratch (meaning every line of code).
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So? BFG didn't make custom drivers from scratch, they took the Nvidia reference drivers and modified them to fit their card.
Honestly to me it sounds like Andy produces these cards the same way as other manufacturers of video cards do, as a joint venture with the chipset maker (which is probably full of Non-Disclosure Agreements).
--- Quote from: Aithos ---I just don't like the wording.
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Tough! Trust me this won't be the only thing you don't like in life.
--- Quote from: Aithos ---And the fact people jump up like good little fanboys and put me down for being "new" or "stupid" only pisses me off.
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Well when your words insult AndyWarne, a respected vendor here, people will step in to defend him. Also slamming a product that would work in your own situation doesn't really make much sense to me.
Looking at the 2 replies before this comment of yours was made, I don't see anyone putting you down for being new or stupid. Both posts just brought your own words back to haunt you. The internet is good for that kind of stuff. Now if you feel new or stupid, I can't help with that.
--- Quote from: Aithos ---And what I meant in this thread is I need a physical cable to hook from my video card to the monitor. I'd rather not spend the time making one myself since it isn't something I enjoy. I don't like doing physical electrical work, same reason I'm not going to do a cap kit on my monitor after I yank it out of there, I don't solder stuff.
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And here I thought wiring stuff up was a large part of making a Mame cabinet especially when the cabinet is already built.
Since your going to yank the monitor out, why not just replace it with a lcd pc monitor? Or even a small lcd tv that has an rgb video input?
--- Quote from: Aithos ---I just HATE the way his card is presented/marketed. I can't say it any more clearly than that, if people have a problem with that then it is just too bad.
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His card seems to be marketed as a drop in solution to connect a pc to an arcade monitor. The card does this function just fine. Why would you hate something that works as it is supposed to? Ohhhh I understand why now... because you don't have one in your pc....
--- Quote ---I do find it amusing though that people who agree with me send me PMs and the people who defend him post in the thread, lol.
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I find that the truth stands up to the light of day way better than any old lie does.
Aithos:
I think you need to go read my other posts in the other thread, most of what I was saying was in response to what was over there. On top of that I've already apologized
and admitted I was wrong. I didn't realize that he developed them in conjunction with ATI since there is no information that would lead me to that conclusion on his website
at all. I'm only pulling the monitor out so that I can strip and paint inside and out. It isn't painted inside at all and I would like to at least spray it black, I sure can't do that
without yanking the monitor out. It also makes the cabinet less heavy so I can get it up from my garage and into my apartment, I don't live in a house and I have stairs to go
up to make this work. I don't want to make a cable, I don't mind wiring, I am going to wire my cabinet for power and wire my CP, I don't want to fabricate a cable to physically
connect my video card to the monitor if I don't have to. If I have to then I'd like a guide since I don't have time to figure it all out on my own when I have no background in cables.
Lo_Wire:
Find another hobby dude...
Dont be hassling Andy, Ipacs' are top notch.
crip102468:
I've been lurking here for a while and decided it was time to start my own topic. To give you a bit of background: I'm 30 years old, live in and grew up in the middle of nowhere Iowa. I'm a computer programmer working as a contractor for a local company partnered with the Army. I grew up playing games and no console or pc game has ever quite captured the thrill of playing games like Double Dragon, Bubble Bobble, Final Fight, etc in the arcade in the late 80s and early 90s. I'm a bit of a perfectionist so I've been reading and doing research on various forums for literally months now. I have come to quite a few decisions but am still working out some details so this is going to be my thread with pictures and questions throughout this process.
This weekend I picked up a Deer Hunting USA cabinet in good structural condition, fully working with a 25" wells gardner k7000 monitor in it. I would have preferred to do a dedicated Bubble Bobble build in a Taito cabinet for my first project, but since original Taito boards aren't super easy to get I'm going to do a MAME build using one of my many custom built computers for the internals. I don't have it yet since I am waiting for delivery from the local amusements company I don't have pictures yet but I'll add those as soon as I get it in my possession. I'm going to gut the cabinet, I'll probably sell the PCB if anyone is interested (it definitely works but I'll test the controls when I get it). I'm planning on either hiring someone or doing a cap kit on the monitor while I have it out to do case work. I am going to use oil based primer/paint for the cabinet but haven't decided if I want simple sides, custom artwork or vinyl.
I am going to have to remove and either custom build or modify the CP since Deer Hunting USA only has a Gun and no joystick to speak of. I'll take a closer look at it once I get it home and decide from there. I know I want Sanwa Joysticks and Buttons but I'm having a hard time deciding between a couple sets: The JLF Joysticks sound great for 8 way games, but I'm a bit concerned that 4 way or 2 way games like Bubble Bobble won't play as accurately. The second option is the JLW but I'm not sure I'd want to continuously have to switch the restrictor so I'm having a hard time deciding. The buttons seem to be an easy choice, I'm going to get screw style OBSN 30 buttons. However, I'm wanting the OBSN-30RG version and the only place I have found them wants like 650 yen (roughly 8.00) per button and ships out of Japan. If anyone knows where to get these a bit more reasonably or if they are always 3x the cost let me know cause at this point I can't tell if that's normal or not.
The most confusing thing so far is going to be how to hook up my DVI 7800GTX nvidia card to the WG K7000 series monitor. I've seen people wire up custom connectors but my area of expertise is not electrical, so if anyone has a guide or solution I would appreciate it. I'll post some more details and pictures later this week as I get stuff figured out. I'm really excited about getting this started, I think the worst thing is going to be waiting to start the work once I start ordering parts. Thanks in advance for any advice and answers!
Rory
Edit: Remembered I had two pictures taken with my crappy camera phone, here they are. Better ones to come when I have it here and can use my digital camera
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