Arcade Collecting > Pinball
Interesting conversations with distributors regarding Stern
RayB:
I don't think it would make a difference. Pat said in the talk that Jim linked to that the coin-operated industry was in decline across the board, not just pinball. That was what, three years ago? I think there's just so much high tech entertainment available in-home or even on a cell phone that kids don't give a crap. They are extremely influenced by whatever is "in" and highly marketed. I was visiting family and when my step-sister's 9 year old niece saw I had an iphone 4 her eyes lit up and she begged me to see it. ... She's NINE. Why does she care about a CEL PHONE? :dunno
Pinball Wizard:
--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on October 11, 2010, 01:12:24 pm ---And if you knew anything about kids today... you would know they like things of a dark nature. Goth, steam punk, halloweenish stuff. But then again, who doesnt? Its a timeless thing.
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Going to put this out there: I'm in public high school right now and "goth, steam punk, halloweenish stuff" represents about 3% of the school. The rest is pulled in by rap music and good action movies. Not trying to sound shallow about it but that pretty much sums up teens. Personally I love the BK2K music but most kids in high school would rather hear that good rap song. Family Guy i think is the most talked about theme of any possible/manufactured theme out there and Stern short-changed on the machines. I'll get people who haven't ever played a pinball and get them hooked with that machine because it is a theme they love! Spiderman is too old of a theme in a high school type pull, but it is a lot better than a BK2K for the sheer fact that teens recognize Spider-Man, but can't connect to BK2K.
studmuff:
The problem isn't that it's Spiderman, BK2k or an other pin. The problem is it's not a Wii, XBox or PS3. If you hooked a coin mech up to one of those you would have a gold mine. People don't relate to pins like they did 10-20 years ago. It reminded me of Back to the Future 2 when Marty went into the future, the kids got an arcade going and he was showing them how to use it. The kids saw him with the gun and said "That's a babies toy" You have to use your hands". People my age see a pinball and they remember arcades. If it was a redemption game, the kids probably would have played it to get tickets for some crappy toys. It's called "instant gratification" and unfortunately your not going to get it with a pin these days like times passed. Wake up at smell the pizza. ;D
--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on October 11, 2010, 01:12:24 pm ---Plenty of kids looked at the machine, and passed right by it without any interest.
Its horribly Generic looking... and not really all that captivating.
Had they gotten a Real Comic artists to do the artwork for the game... and
actually made a great layout for the game... those kids may have put some
quarters in. Heck, the soundtrack is also uninspired garbage compared to Bk2k.
The Black Knight is a symbolic thing. Its instant 'Halloween' like appeal.
Its dark, powerful, and pure awesome. Far more inspiring than Spiderman.
And if you knew anything about kids today... you would know they like things of a dark nature. Goth, steam punk, halloweenish stuff. But then again, who doesnt? Its a timeless thing.
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Pinball Wizard:
I'm going to have to agree to you on that to some extent. Pinball is looked at as that old antique thing that old people play by my generation. Pinball hasn't evolved to that HD 50" screen that 8 are linked to (granted I know pinball is real, making HD a null point but I'm trying to make another point). It's an uphill battle to get my friends to play any pinball or say a Robotron or any other classic, but they jump at the idea of say Crisis Zone 4, or Need For Speed. We easily take on the entire row of 8 Need For Speeds just so we can compete because it's big, obnoxious and overall flashy. If we put a bunch of flashy lights on a pinball and make it take up the space of 4 games it'll pull in teens.
Jeff AMN:
30 Rock poked fun at pinball last week. There was a VERY nerdy guy on there and Liz Lemon was cheering him up and said "how many people can say that they own a real pinball machine?"
Oh man, now even the mainstream is making fun of us. What does it say about those of us that are double digit collectors?
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