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| Osirus23:
--- Quote from: lilshawn on September 13, 2010, 01:25:34 pm --- * - i can't imagine that the cost of production of the board/computer is much more than what the sale cost is. they are essentially giving the ROMs away with the purchase of the board/computer. --- End quote --- Irrelevant. Does that mean its ok for me to sell pirated movies so long as I only charge people for the cost of blank DVD-Rs? |
| lilshawn:
--- Quote from: Osirus23 on September 13, 2010, 01:30:35 pm --- --- Quote from: lilshawn on September 13, 2010, 01:25:34 pm --- * - i can't imagine that the cost of production of the board/computer is much more than what the sale cost is. they are essentially giving the ROMs away with the purchase of the board/computer. --- End quote --- Irrelevant. Does that mean its ok for me to sell pirated movies so long as I only charge people for the cost of blank DVD-Rs? --- End quote --- I'm not going there. I'm just saying they aren't profiting off the ROM's themselves or the computer/board itself but the combination of the two. The profit off the ROM's is implied, not actual. again, i'm not supporting it. Just explaining my statement. |
| lilshawn:
--- Quote ---It worked out to like a couple of bucks per ROM on average. --- End quote --- that's not bad at all, and i would pay that for a 60 in one to have it legal. does that then give me the right to put it in my apartment laundromat and make money off it? |
| saint:
--- Quote from: lilshawn on September 13, 2010, 02:40:39 pm --- --- Quote ---It worked out to like a couple of bucks per ROM on average. --- End quote --- that's not bad at all, and i would pay that for a 60 in one to have it legal. does that then give me the right to put it in my apartment laundromat and make money off it? --- End quote --- No. 1. They're not available any more StarROMs is out of business. 2. They were licensed for personal use only. 3. MAME does not allow commercial use even if you had the rights to the ROMs. 4. Even if you have an emulator that did and you had the commercial rights to use the ROMs, you still have to get the appropriate business licenses from your local government. |
| CheffoJeffo:
--- Quote from: Driver-Man on September 13, 2010, 07:39:35 am ---I'm with you CheffoJeffo, and thank you for not insulting me. --- End quote --- To be clear, you are NOT with me. I have bought these boards knowing full well that the games were not licensed (as is the case with all of the multikits that I have purchased with the exception of the Exidy 440 kit) and that the use of MAME in them was explicitly illegal. I have made the choice to live with that. I do not sell these boards. I do not tell others where to buy them (it seems that people are happy to pay double the price from their "local" retailers and then claim ignorance and taxation!). I have no illusions as to what my rights are with respect to those boards. I will not suggest how the MAMEDevs should respond to the fact that I have xx-in-1 boards in my home arcade. That would be the height of both arrogance and stupidity, particularly given how they have already spoken on the topic (and, I might add, come up completely at odds with your notional representations). I am grateful to the folks (e.g. MAMEDevs) who have put in the time and effort so that I may benefit. If there were an alternative beyond donating to ROM dumping (e.g. say, donating to MAMEDev explicitly when I buy a derivative product), which I have already done, then I would do so. If you have not, then you should be asking yourself why you haven't. I have drawn my line in the sand as to where I am morally comfortable and have made arrangements (as best I can) to support those who have contributed to my enjoyment of the hobby What have you done ? Thought so. |
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