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How do you know your JAMMA PCB is legal?
CheffoJeffo:
So, you require CRIMINAL charges as evidence ?
Driver-Man:
--- Quote from: CheffoJeffo on September 12, 2010, 10:00:54 am ---So, you require CRIMINAL charges as evidence ?
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I do think that falls under "criminal law", but I do not see what does that matter. I just want to know about facts, any court case that is related to this sure is argument. That is how you proved to me that manufacturing of these X-in-1 is illegal in US, and sometimes even prosecuted.
Is there anything specific you would like me to present? I can not think of any definite proof, or place to find one, but perhaps you can give me an idea what kind of argument will convince you to agree with me?
Haze:
--- Quote from: Driver-Man on September 12, 2010, 09:53:22 am ---I'm making it really simple for you here - all you have to do is point out a case, or few, where consumer or re-seller was brought to court and found guilty, or at least brought to court and charged.
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The Microsoft stuff I gave you should be all you need.
Microsoft take DIRECT action against their 'customers' by DISABLING the illegal product. Yes, they are the victim, and yes, in certain circumstances Microsoft will exchange the illegal product for a legal one. The fact that the customer is the victim does not change the legal status of the item. Microsoft could, if they choose, offer no exchange program, and drag all these people through the legal system, but have chosen a more customer-friendly approach. (and let the RIAA take the '90 year old disabled grandma dragged into court' headlines)
You bought some PCBs which are illegal, you got screwed, tough s**t. Namco don't offer any similar process to replace your product with a legal one (and in this case, it would come down to far more than Namco) so you're stuck with an Illegal one. Namco have no direct way of disabling these xx-in-1 boards, but if they could, they probably would.
I've given you a real-world example of where buying a product, and having an invoice for it does not make it any more legal, and in the same case, a situation where the actual rights holder of the illegal software can disable the end user's illegal copy (which by your logic, shouldn't be possible, because the software became legal the second you bought it in a store, with the PC and invoice)
Malenko:
--- Quote from: Driver-Man on September 12, 2010, 09:38:35 am ---I already told you I PAID for my PCBs, I did not make them, nor did I sell them. I also did not violate any copyrights, I'm the VICTIM, I would not know it was illegal if it was not for you.
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Lets try another approach. Go to the website of where you bought the PCB from. Does it acknowledge the copyrights and declare the board licensed and say they are used with permission? Just for a comparison, here is the webpage to buy Marvel VS Capcom 2 for xbox live:
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/m/marvelvscapcom2xboxlivearcade/
see whats at the bottom? See how it says "USED WITH PERMISSION" ? That makes them liable if its not. As for you not knowing, have you ever been pulled over for speeding and told the cop "I didnt know the speed limit was only 40?" Did it work? Didn't think so, you still have to pay the fine.
wweumina:
--- Quote from: Osirus23 on September 11, 2010, 09:37:50 pm ---Whats up with this site lately? Where are these people coming from?
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+1 :dunno