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How do you know your JAMMA PCB is legal?
Malenko:
Haze, hes either not going to read that or not understand it. Its like talking to genesim or a wall.
CheffoJeffo:
--- Quote from: Malenko on September 12, 2010, 09:31:56 am ---Its like talking to genesim or a wall.
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I had the same thought.
Driver-Man:
--- Quote ---"Sorry, I don't care if you own the rights to those games, and I know this is an unauthorized PCB imported from HK, but it's ok, I can sell it because I paid for it and the government took a cut, here is my invoice" Do you think the courts, or Namco would seriously care for your argument?
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Yes, I'm saying the "consumer" is not liable, but victim. Namco should go after the factory or perhaps importer/distributor to find out if they were aware of copyright breach. I'm also saying that even importer and local distributor would not be liable if they can prove they were not aware of any copyright infringement. -- All you have to do is point out a case, or few, where consumer or re-seller was brought to court and found guilty, or at least brought to court and charged.
--- Quote ---Once again, your inability to do the research shows through. nVidia/ATI, AMD/Intel already did sue each other for more money than most of us make in a lifetime. The difference here is that this has all been settled and fees have been paid and interestingly, permission granted in some of those cases. The comparison between the business model of these company and a video game company is a poor one.
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Once again, research would aid your argument and understanding how these laws function would go a long way in looking less like an idiot looking to make a buck. Here is a link to U.S. customs for the other people in this forum who are actually capable of doing the research.
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I finally see why are you so angry, you are jealous because you think I'm making money out of this, somehow.
I already told you I PAID for my PCBs, I did not make them, nor did I sell them. I also did not violate any copyrights, I'm the VICTIM, I would not know it was illegal if it was not for you. CUSTOMS OFFICE DECLARED IT LEGAL, so whom should I believe? If I wanted to make money that is the last thing I would be dealing with. I would rather take on empty COMs and re-sell them for mobile/embedded market. That would sell off thousands times faster. You are being pathetic, you hate me for all the wrong reasons.
Did you actually say anything there? You are not making any arguments really, you're still waving hands and saying all is written "somewhere else" and all is so clear yet you can not articulate any actual reasoning or interpretation here. It's all explained on the Google website, right? -- So, you agree nVidia, ATI/AMD, Intel already did sue each other, and therefore these products everyone has/had were illegal at some point in time... and it was illegal to poses, buy and sell offending hardware. Yes?
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http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-rambus-patent-lawsuit-ram,9502.html
- "Nvidia Found Guilty of Infringing Rambus Patents - In summer 2008, Rambus claimed that "a number of Nvidia products" with memory controllers for SDR, DDR, DDR2, DDR3, GDDR, and GDDR3 SDRAM infringe upon 17 Rambus patents, leading to the expected lawsuit.
Last Friday, the U.S. International Trade Commission ruled that Nvidia violated three of five patents held by Rambus which could lead to a possible U.S. ban on the import of some Nvidia products."
So anyone who has, buys or sells this offending hardware is breaking the law and can be held accountable for trafficking or possession of illegal item? Or maybe, the government needs to issue a BAN on the particular item first?
--- Quote ---If you do not know the story of Tengen, then you sir, cannot be deemed a video gamer.
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You are failing to make an argument. All you have to do is point out a case, or few, where consumer or re-seller was brought to court and found guilty, or at least brought to court and charged.
CheffoJeffo:
Is this entire argument as simple as Driver-Man thinking that only criminal law (e.g. where charges would be laid) is the only determination of legality ?
Driver-Man:
I'm making it really simple for you here - all you have to do is point out a case, or few, where consumer or re-seller was brought to court and found guilty, or at least brought to court and charged.