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Quinny:
Sorry I meant to say that it won't work without fglrx.
What is the command with script that you mentioned?
bitbytebit:
--- Quote from: Quinny on October 19, 2010, 12:36:36 pm ---Sorry I meant to say that it won't work without fglrx.
What is the command with script that you mentioned?
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There's an option I think with the script you install it with, or an fglrx-uninstall command possibly. I had to uninstall it from my system and fully re-install all openGL libraries and possibly dri stuff and the X server/drivers. It goes through and alters quite a bit of stuff there and was not easy to get rid of, and with my AVGA 3000 pcie card it never worked and just crashed/locked on trying to start X. Once removed, and having the basic ati driver installed with radeon support, you should be able to do the X -configure command and get a close to working config or at least a start to one. In theory X should be able to startup on a normal monitor without a config at all in /etc/X11 too. Of course once the fglrx stuff has been installed that may be less likely until things are fully restored to how they were beforehand.
I've actually just about gotten genres working to where there are no longer any .ini files needed and not really a need for a special X version or configuration, well at least if there's a newer xrandr version on the system and decently new version of X and possibly a way to avoid default modelines that X likes to force/override xrandr inserted ones (X may not override xrandr modelines, but I'm not sure yet). Just a perl script and lrmc plus xrandr, dynamically creates modelines and runs mame with the game at that modeline, removes it when done with the game. X Windows is definitely a pain to deal with having different versions or installing extra drivers, so hopefully my new solution will avoid any system specifics as much as possible and just work on a majority of working X installations and drivers/cards (that allow lower dotclocks and modelines from xrandr). It basically would make any card that can have a low dotclock work above and beyond an ArcadeVGA card since this will allow you to have custom modelines for each game dynamically created and like Soft15Khz in Windows not restricting you to a specific card and again we are also free of the Windows limits of a small number of 30 modelines or less.
Quinny:
--- Quote from: bitbytebit on October 19, 2010, 02:31:10 pm ---There's an option I think with the script you install it with, or an fglrx-uninstall command possibly. I had to uninstall it from my system and fully re-install all openGL libraries and possibly dri stuff and the X server/drivers. It goes through and alters quite a bit of stuff there and was not easy to get rid of, and with my AVGA 3000 pcie card it never worked and just crashed/locked on trying to start X. Once removed, and having the basic ati driver installed with radeon support, you should be able to do the X -configure command and get a close to working config or at least a start to one. In theory X should be able to startup on a normal monitor without a config at all in /etc/X11 too. Of course once the fglrx stuff has been installed that may be less likely until things are fully restored to how they were beforehand.
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Wow! So much to do. I am not experienced with linux but I have learnt a lot over the past year and even use Ubuntu on my main PC now.
I will do a search and see what I can find out.
So it sounds like I need to:
- Uninstall fglrx, which I have already done.
- Install (or re-install) openGL drivers, which I don't think I have done as I am not aware of that.
- Install dri stuff, which I think I have done but will do again.
- Re-install xserver, which I have done a couple of times.
- (Re-)install the ATI driver.
- Configure X.
I'll let you know how I go. If you know what openGL drivers I need please let me know.
bitbytebit:
--- Quote from: Quinny on October 20, 2010, 08:38:34 am ---
--- Quote from: bitbytebit on October 19, 2010, 02:31:10 pm ---There's an option I think with the script you install it with, or an fglrx-uninstall command possibly. I had to uninstall it from my system and fully re-install all openGL libraries and possibly dri stuff and the X server/drivers. It goes through and alters quite a bit of stuff there and was not easy to get rid of, and with my AVGA 3000 pcie card it never worked and just crashed/locked on trying to start X. Once removed, and having the basic ati driver installed with radeon support, you should be able to do the X -configure command and get a close to working config or at least a start to one. In theory X should be able to startup on a normal monitor without a config at all in /etc/X11 too. Of course once the fglrx stuff has been installed that may be less likely until things are fully restored to how they were beforehand.
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Wow! So much to do. I am not experienced with linux but I have learnt a lot over the past year and even use Ubuntu on my main PC now.
I will do a search and see what I can find out.
So it sounds like I need to:
- Uninstall fglrx, which I have already done.
- Install (or re-install) openGL drivers, which I don't think I have done as I am not aware of that.
- Install dri stuff, which I think I have done but will do again.
- Re-install xserver, which I have done a couple of times.
- (Re-)install the ATI driver.
- Configure X.
I'll let you know how I go. If you know what openGL drivers I need please let me know.
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Yeah just search in google about it and you'll see this is a big problem with fglrx that lots of people run into. It likes to delete system files and doesn't uninstall cleanly so people have to end up reinstalling parts of X Windows after uninstalling fglrx. There seems to be plenty of information about it so something should help, but there's no quick easy clearcut way to clean up after fglrx from what I could tell unfortunately. I just kind of fiddled around with my system when setting it up, tried fglrx at first and it didn't work and took a day or so of mucking around and re-installing stuff till I got the radeon driver to work. Part of the key of getting working was the uninstalling fglrx and just reinstalling parts of X Windows/opengl/drm/dri and all those involved components for X. Just reinstall "Mesa" "libdrm" at first, those are the main ones it definitely overwrites, then recompile and install the xf86-ati driver over that. Then you might want to try recompiling/installing the xserver itself, but the one of course that came with your system most likely is the best one to use else the versions won't match with all the little parts of X Windows there are. The way that you installed fglrx hopefully gives a way to uninstall, and there's that uninstall script possibly that it installs which can be used but some say they can't find while others can (I'm not sure what I did exactly, but it was either the uninstall script or I found a command line arg in the install script they have to uninstall. It was a few months ago, and I have totally removed all traces of it from my system since then :) ).
Quinny:
--- Quote from: bitbytebit on October 20, 2010, 08:52:04 am ---Yeah just search in google about it and you'll see this is a big problem with fglrx that lots of people run into. It likes to delete system files and doesn't uninstall cleanly so people have to end up reinstalling parts of X Windows after uninstalling fglrx. There seems to be plenty of information about it so something should help, but there's no quick easy clearcut way to clean up after fglrx from what I could tell unfortunately. I just kind of fiddled around with my system when setting it up, tried fglrx at first and it didn't work and took a day or so of mucking around and re-installing stuff till I got the radeon driver to work. Part of the key of getting working was the uninstalling fglrx and just reinstalling parts of X Windows/opengl/drm/dri and all those involved components for X. Just reinstall "Mesa" "libdrm" at first, those are the main ones it definitely overwrites, then recompile and install the xf86-ati driver over that. Then you might want to try recompiling/installing the xserver itself, but the one of course that came with your system most likely is the best one to use else the versions won't match with all the little parts of X Windows there are. The way that you installed fglrx hopefully gives a way to uninstall, and there's that uninstall script possibly that it installs which can be used but some say they can't find while others can (I'm not sure what I did exactly, but it was either the uninstall script or I found a command line arg in the install script they have to uninstall. It was a few months ago, and I have totally removed all traces of it from my system since then :) ).
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Thanks for the input. This is just being difficult I guess. I can boot into old linux versions, like 2.6.31, and get into vesa graphics mode. I was able to download the latest updates from synaptic but that hasn't helped anyway.
For some reason I can't use the vesa mode in the latest linux version and as for ati I haven't gotten that to work at all.
You'd think this would be easy, right? Even with no xorg.conf file I just get a boot to the xterm login.
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