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| Mikezilla:
--- Quote ---It's been over 10 years with a large number of people working on it donating their time while others donate money to buy new boards for dumping. --- End quote --- Ok see, now I didnt know that. That sounds like quite the undertaking. I was doing a little reading on it between posts, so I get it now. --- Quote ---So it's okay to steal if the price is too high? Whatever... I don't justify my piracy. If I do it, it's because I can. Plain and simple. I buy some stuff, I pirate others. A lot of the time, I pirate something, like it, then go buy it. --- End quote --- Ok so Im confused now. What is your point? You pirate stuff, and dont care, because youre not making money off of it? --- Quote ---So what gives some ---uvula--- the right to make "A FEW DOLLARS" per copy selling a program he himself took part in writing, when the people who actually did write it did it without receiving ANY compensation and specifically distributed it with the stipulation that it never be sold for money? --- End quote --- You also have to keep in mind he is selling them, who knows, me might have not even have got any buyers. Im not trying to be a jerk or anything, I just think its an interesting arguement. But see, they did it by volunteering. They dont care if they get money or not, when people volunteer, they dont expect to get compensated. Thats the point. Youre right, they never intended it to be sold, but cmon, with the internet, its going to happen. You think the Chinese intended that their fireworks were going to end up killing people?! (creation of gunpowder). But now being educated on the whole MAME project, and what Cheffo said, yes I now change my stance on it being immoral. Like I stated before I didnt know the magnituide of what it took to actually "MAME" a game. I just wouldnt let it anger me like it did to you. (Osirus23) :dunno Its like this dude punched your mom or something. |
| Ginsu Victim:
--- Quote from: Mikezilla on August 30, 2010, 05:35:32 pm ---Ok so Im confused now. What is your point? You pirate stuff, and dont care, because youre not making money off of it? --- End quote --- No, my point is it sounded like you were justifying pirating stuff based on price ("This game is too high so I'll pirate it instead"). |
| CheffoJeffo:
It's all shades of gray and everybody's tolerance is different. For example, I told you about the efforts behind MAME because you asked, but I also own multiboards that are illegal and also based on MAME. Folks like Haze (EDIT: by this I mean folks that support MAME and MAMEDevs, nothing derogatory!) despise the guys who sell those boards and, I imagine, don't look kindly on folks like me who buy them, but they were a good fit for what I wanted (one replace a MAME box in my vertical MAME cab) and way cheaper than building new MAME boxes. I used to report folks who sold MAME cabs for ridiculous amounts of money, but don't bother anymore. I didn't bother to report this guy. I don't flag multigames on CL either (particularly since most of the ones that come up locally are sold by people I know). OTOH, I was very unhappy when D2K was added to Misfit MAME and also rather unhappy when a poster here complained about D2K to Nintendo. |
| Turnarcades:
I got bad deja-vu. I get it every 3 months or so when us old farts get a bit defensive against the latest wave of noobs about the old MAME/discs chestnut. Oldies - we know the score and I know we're just trying to cap these arguments early on when they start, but I say let's save our blood pressures. Noobs - welcome to the first of many of these threads. ebay don't really care enough, the rules of this forum stand, and as you become a hobbyist you soon realise: The first rule of fight club is..... you do not talk about fight club. |
| pinballwizard79:
"This is what bothered me the most. The guy can't even be honest about doing it" Is it honest to DL roms & then bash someone for selling what you stole? "Bringing MAME/ROMS into the spotlight, which can draw attention from the copyright holders and law enforcement to start cracking down on it" Um you mean like a forum full of people showing off their arcades or companies like dream authentics giving a machine to Hugh Heffner or youtube videos, or front ends that are awesome (psst HS) or companies like GGG/Ultimarc. The root of all MAME evil is prob the chrome joystick or custom artwork, they are the shiny beacon of MAME! I am sure however you learned about this whole emulation thing via a catastrophic & epic breach of arcade club silence. Anyway my point is MAME is not a secret. Actually some guy has the balls to sell a hack of a game he didnt even make & flame people who fail to pay for his borrowed theme! Wait are we all guilty of being trolls in this thread? Why are we arguing with our arcade peers....FML lets all just get along, download files, seed torrents & trade DVD's eating chicken nuggets drunk & overclocking our CPU's for Cruisn USA. Enough of this ;D Edited: changed post fu |
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