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New pinball restoration - 1969 Gottlieb Road Race EM
Q*Bert_OP:
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--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on August 23, 2010, 10:14:09 pm ---Magic Eraser works really well actually.
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On newer games with a fresher layer of clear coat, sure. I've been disappointed on EMs and classic SS, and I've tried all the 'tricks' with regards to getting the foam moist.
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Agree 100%. Melamine foam doesn't do anything but take paint off...there's something much better than that I use, but I've been asked not to reveal exactly what it is... :police:
--- Quote --- Finally, note that the field will quickly go back to the dirty state, because the micro-pits,
scrapes, etc.. are still there for dirt to seep back into. To avoid this, you will have to
seal the field with something after you clean it. (Wax wont be good enough to stop this)
--- Quote ---Another untrue RGP myth. Clean the game every so often, it'll never get as dirty as it was. Unlike you, I actually own some vintage games and I've NEVER felt the need to clearcoat except in a case where the ink was literally flaking off.
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Once again, I agree with PBJ(rarer than a consistently working Black Hole) :lol
Wax your game...the dirt won't go back in the paint cracks...the worst that happens is previous wear gradually becomes larger
--- Quote --- As for the plastics, you may be able to sand the top surface layer, and then buff it back
shinny.
--- Quote ---This is crazy advice, don't listen to it. Don't do anything more than cleaning the grime off and polishing with Novus 2. You cannot get rid of the yellowing.
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Sanding only works on extremely dulled plastics...think path of the dead on LOTR, although "Tigger" probably hates that game too...I sanded one and flamed it and it looked like new...
Xiaou2:
--- Quote ---Agree 100%. Melamine foam doesn't do anything but take paint off
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Sorry, but not true. Ive used it on my IJ to clean up entrenched pitted dirt that
nothing else would touch. This included a full polish from a pro polish kit, and harsh
cleaners such as KrudKutter.
--- Quote ---Wax your game...the dirt won't go back in the paint cracks...the worst that happens is previous wear gradually becomes larger
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And what happens when the wax absorbs the dirt/carbon soot/metal shavings?
The stuff ends up exactly where it came from in the first place. In the pits that formed
exactly from that very process of its destruction.
The ball grinds, spins, and bashes dirt and metal shavings all over the place. Wax
dont protect very long, and the wax simply holds inside of itself.. which the ball
just pounds and spins right into the playfield in no time at all.
It even happens to Mylar, which is 100,000 times more wear protective than wax.
If the mircro pits were easy to clean, then fine... but they arnt. Even with the eraser
it took a bit of work, wasnt perfect, and almost took the paint off trying to get the
pits cleaned.
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Yes I did. Ill search the link later.
--- Quote ---I'd play around with dry rubbing paint into those worn areas near the flippers. This is where you get as close a color match as possible,
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Thats good...when the color of the game hasnt been color faded by a factor of 10
already.
Much like a Pink shirt that Used to originally be Red... do you just touch the bleach sports
with pink... or die it all back to red? This really is up to the Op.. who does seem more
interested in restoring it to its original brilliant glory.
Dazz:
Well, I didn't realize that cleaning the cabinet was going to be the largest part of this restore. After about 5 to 6 hours of hard scrubbing I've completed one side and half of the rear. It looks like I still have another 5 or 6 hours of scrubbing on the cabinet to get it ready for the new legs that are coming next week sometime.
I also started cleaning the playfield a little.
Dazz:
I haven't had an update on this thread in a while, but not much progress has been made. I've been hesitant to continue until I could get my yellowed plastics looking better. I would have hated to have done a nice re-furbish to only have to use the old yellow plastics. Thankfully, a ebay auction was pointed out to me for new NOS Road Race plastic set. I couldn't resist...
Now that I have new plastics it's time to start moving forward! I've placed a couple new orders and should be receiving all new pop-bumpers, lights, fuses and several other smaller parts to get this pin looking and playing good again.
Dazz:
These were listed as NOS. The seller said they were removed from a table long ago, so I'm pretty sure they are original. They have a couple little scratches on them, but they look really good. They have given me a new breath of life to push and get this pin working again.
I will definitely get scans of these before I install them on the machine.
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