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Level42:

--- Quote from: CheffoJeffo on July 12, 2010, 08:40:57 pm ---From an opinion piece in the local paper:


The way the game is currently set up, it rewards the two types of players that we all dislike -- the actors and the slashers. My beloved Brasil has always numbered amongst the former, but this year joined the latter. The houligans of this tournament used to be called the Flying Dutchmen for the free-flowing way they played the game. Spain's trademark possession passing was marred by dives and hacks.


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What you guys should do is watch some games of the 1974 (f.i. Brazil-Holland) and 1978 (f.i the final) again.
The number of fouls (esp. in the first game) are simply UNbelievable and with today's standards there wouldn't have been enough players on the field to continue the game because of the red cards.

It is a myth the the Dutch team always played so beautifully. In 1988 we had a pretty bad game (against Ireland, with a clear off-side goal for us) just as well. The first game we lost 2-0 from the Russians.

The whole idea that the Dutch team had for the finals was probably that they didn't want to get themselves run over like the Germans did and watch it happen...so they were intending to fight. I agree that in some cases there were stupid an unnecessary fouls BUT the referee CLEARLY saw a lot of those from the Dutch, where he completely "missed" them from the Spanish team. Also a good number of yellow cards from fouls that I would rate as a regular foul, but the referee let himself go nuts.

I seriously have never seen a worse referee in a game before, and I dearly wish the UK will send him back to the police force where he can play the main role against little boys that steal an apple, because he conducted if the final was the "Mr.Webb" show.

I read that he experienced the final like a ride through hell, well not amazing since he acted like the devil himself. A good ref. you don't notice during a game. He was constantly acting like a ---tallywhacker---, thinking the players needed to be lectured. Instead he should just have shown the card and be done with it.
Of course he completely missed the corner-kick that we deserved just before the Spanish goal, and also the off-side situation the first time the ball was passed.

About the international press: the funny thing is that up to the final the Dutch team got real good international press. All that was forgotten in one game (typical for today's poor memory of people).

May I remind everyone of the cycle kick from the Urugayan guy which required De Zeeuw to have a couple of teeth put back in place in hospital ? We didn't complain about that, it happened in the fire of the game. De Jong's kick on the chest looks very bad if you look at that one picture, but if you see the actual play on video, it's clear that it's just another duel.

Anyway, I agree that there was little beauty in the way football was played on this World Championship, but we have to keep things in perspective.

Kevin Mullins:
Wow..... I actually understood every bit of that, and I've only been here a week.  :cheers:
(and I agree on all your points made)

I'm gonna have to go home and suffer through some American Football now.  ;D

Malenko:
the only thing I dont really get in soccer/football is the offsides call. Theres no line or mark on the feild (that I'm aware of other then the fact the grass is mowed in a different direction) so I'm not sure how people know where to be. In hockey if you're on the other side of the blue line when the puck crosses, you're offside.

I watched a few games, and my main gripe is all the diving. I think they should get yellow cards for that ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- or just start tosing people out of the game, or even better the guy you tried to get in trouble gets to kick you in the danglies.

Samstag:

--- Quote from: Level42 on July 16, 2010, 04:20:26 am ---About the international press: the funny thing is that up to the final the Dutch team got real good international press. All that was forgotten in one game (typical for today's poor memory of people).

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In America I started hearing about it during the Brazil game.  The dutch commentator here was pretty embarrassed by the way they played.

RayB:

--- Quote from: Malenko on July 16, 2010, 09:54:07 am ---the only thing I dont really get in soccer/football is the offsides call. Theres no line or mark on the feild (that I'm aware of other then the fact the grass is mowed in a different direction) so I'm not sure how people know where to be. In hockey if you're on the other side of the blue line when the puck crosses, you're offside.
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If I remember correctly, the half-backs (or whatever they call the row of players nearest your own goal) can't get ahead of the forwards. Haven't played in 24 years, so forgive me if I got that or the terminology wrong.

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