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Old School Gaming or New School Gaming?
patrickl:
--- Quote from: Mozee on May 23, 2010, 05:40:54 pm ---I think games now try so hard to be like movies and spectacles that they forget the basic core elements of what makes a video game good.
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Some games try to be like a movie, but by no means ALL games do this. The smaller games hardly ever do (WiiWare or other downloadable console games). There are plenty of shoot em-up's, fighting, racing (or whatever sports) games on consoles too.
In fact plenty of games from old ages ALSO tried to be movies. They were just very much less succesful at it.
Vulgar Soul:
--- Quote from: nitz on May 23, 2010, 06:07:24 pm ---
Never get tired of the classic arcade and console games though! They're beauty is in their simplicity - especially in the case of the arcade games, they had to be fairly easy to understand or people would quickly get frustrated and not play again, and they had to be addictive to keep people pumping quarters and also because they couldn't rely on graphics to keep people interested. Nowadays, I think graphics is what sells games for the most part, so that's what developers concentrate on. Gameplay comes second. Too bad. Saves me money though I guess, and we'll always have all those old great classics to play! :)
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That's it nitz, simplicity, challenge, points, competition, addictiveness. Gaming today is all about spectacles and less about solid gaming. Instead of thinking a game, developers are thinking of movies, and personally I'm just losing interest. Games these days just aren't "fun" anymore, they're hardly even 'games,' more like interactive stories or virtual reality movies.
That's why good ole score rackin, simple, addictive gaming will always have a place in my gaming heart lol.
And I wouldn't say my love for classic gaming saves me money. Now I have to spend thousands just to build my own arcades and re-experience good gaming the way it was meant again lol.
--- Quote from: Epyx on May 23, 2010, 06:10:10 pm ---You have no idea how cool it is for me to read about 20 year olds who are into classic gaming...brings a tear to the ole eye :cheers:
I just finished playing Raiden, R-Type, Truxton (another great one if you haven't tried this) this morning for many hours...a ton of fun.
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Lol yeah, I remember as a kid, I would ask my dad for a new Genesis game and he would always tell me, "new game? But you haven't even mastered the last game we bought." I never realized what he meant by that until now. The days of picking up a game and being challenged, and motivated to get the highest score possible, beat your friends, never lose, and "master" it have disappeared.
Honestly, it is very sad that their are people my age who grew up in the 16 bit golden age and don't care for this stuff, but even some of the older adults in my family think it's cool I'm gonna build a custom cab, but wonder why I would bother with old games when I have these amazing new systems today...ugh. But I'm sure once it's done they'll love it and be in nostalgia land...hopefully before the novelty wears it out.
And yes, Truxton kicks ass. Whenever I sit around deciding what to play, I can always click on a good ole shmup to get me goin.
Vulgar Soul:
--- Quote from: patrickl on May 23, 2010, 06:21:56 pm ---
--- Quote from: Mozee on May 23, 2010, 05:40:54 pm ---I think games now try so hard to be like movies and spectacles that they forget the basic core elements of what makes a video game good.
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Some games try to be like a movie, but by no means ALL games do this. The smaller games hardly ever do (WiiWare or other downloadable console games). There are plenty of shoot em-up's, fighting, racing (or whatever sports) games on consoles too.
In fact plenty of games from old ages ALSO tried to be movies. They were just very much less succesful at it.
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I agree, if not for simple online gaming like Xbox Live, and the small-scale integrated "arcade" platforms like XBLA and Wiiware which have plenty of good stuff keeping solid retro style gaming alive and well today, I wouldn't have too much interest. And of course certain genres can never escape the core principles of gaming.
I'm sure plenty of old games attempted to market themselves as visually exciting and cinematic, but the obvious hardware limitations meant that a arcade game HAD to be first and foremost fun, addictive, and challenging if it ever hoped to do well. But now, games can finally market visuals over all and live up to that marketing hype, leaving behind good gaming as we know it.
TOK:
Had to go with Play Anything And Everything, though its not 100% accurate. I have a PS3 and Wii that are mostly dust collectors (I think the Wii was last turned on Christmas day), but I still play a lot of new games on the PC.
I love open world shooters like the STALKER series on the PC. Hate console controller for first person shooters, which is why the PS3 is mostly a glorified BluRay player.
patrickl:
--- Quote from: Mozee on May 23, 2010, 06:49:28 pm ---
--- Quote from: patrickl on May 23, 2010, 06:21:56 pm ---
--- Quote from: Mozee on May 23, 2010, 05:40:54 pm ---I think games now try so hard to be like movies and spectacles that they forget the basic core elements of what makes a video game good.
--- End quote ---
Some games try to be like a movie, but by no means ALL games do this. The smaller games hardly ever do (WiiWare or other downloadable console games). There are plenty of shoot em-up's, fighting, racing (or whatever sports) games on consoles too.
In fact plenty of games from old ages ALSO tried to be movies. They were just very much less succesful at it.
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I agree, if not for simple online gaming like Xbox Live, and the small-scale integrated "arcade" platforms like XBLA and Wiiware which have plenty of good stuff keeping solid retro style gaming alive and well today, I wouldn't have too much interest. And of course certain genres can never escape the core principles of gaming.
I'm sure plenty of old games attempted to market themselves as visually exciting and cinematic, but the obvious hardware limitations meant that a arcade game HAD to be first and foremost fun, addictive, and challenging if it ever hoped to do well. But now, games can finally market visuals over all and live up to that marketing hype, leaving behind good gaming as we know it.
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I really love the cinematic aspect of for instance Resident Evil 4 or Uncharted 2. My girlfriend and her sister where hiding behind the couch when I was playing Resident evil. My kid keeps asking me to play Uncharted. He just loves the story. So people not even playing the game enjoy it.
For some simple game fixes there are plenty options in the form of flash games or nintendo DS shoot em ups. "Space Invaders extreme" is nice on the DS.