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manman:

lol.  the funny thing about you is that you are trying to argue something you seem to know nothing about, other than what you can copy/paste from another site.  That list of games was what finally killed the arcades and paved the way for redemption?  I think you might want to do a little date checking there, the beginning of that list there correlates to the point where arcades were pretty much dead and then were brought back to life again.  I know that you know little to nothing about fighting games, and or just want to be willfully dismissive- so it's probably pointless to point this out, but I'll give it a shot...
One of the most important aspects in fighting games is character balance.  the tiniest change to the recovery time, start up, etc for various moves can dramatically change the effectiveness of that character, and shifts the matchup with all the other characters.  Now...aside from the fact that some of the games you listed are completely different seires of the overall franchise and play totally different, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here and just address variations in a specific series.  Some of these variations were brought out for less valuable reasons like just trying to combat the gameplay tweaked bootlegs that were coming out, but many of these revisions were made in response to player feedback, because these games were (and some still are) being played at a competitive level.  A game company being responsive to it's fans and making the games more like what they want?  yeeeah, that's a TERRIBLE thing, lol.  People hate updates to their favorite games, that's for sure.  Some of the stuff you listed are also the exact same game but the japanese version vs. the american version... you are really talking out of your ass here haha.

As for it being like chess- It's not really possible to make a comparison like that, but the point he's making is that to be good at these games it does take similar skills like strategy, being able to read your oponent, bait your opponent, etc.  I think it's much closer to what he is trying to say than the way you seem to see it.  It would be just as easy to bash on the games you enjoyed with the same words like "tired" and "worn out" that you use, but I'm not that stupid. I realize that while it might not be my thing, games that may look outwardly simple and basic probably take a hell of a lot of skill to be the guy setting records, or even just do really well in.  It would be stupid of me to sit here and bash that stuff or the audience that enjoyed it  just because I'm not interested in it.  

CheffoJeffo:


--- Quote from: manman on May 25, 2010, 04:54:42 pm ---lol.  the funny thing about you is that you are trying to argue something you seem to know nothing about, other than what you can copy/paste from another site.  That list of games was what finally killed the arcades and paved the way for redemption?  I think you might want to do a little date checking there, the beginning of that list there correlates to the point where arcades were pretty much dead and then were brought back to life again.  I know that you know little to nothing about fighting games, and or just want to be willfully dismissive- so it's probably pointless to point this out, but I'll give it a shot...

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Huh ?

It seems to me that you are the one who doesn't know what they are talking about. You are the one who has made it abundantly clear that he doesn't "get" how the Golden Age was golden and what it was like. Hell, I managed an arcade when SFII came out and you're going to tell me that I know nothing about what was happening around then ?

Like the title says ...  ;)

manman:

Uh... were you reading what I wrote?  That was a response to havok not you...   Also, for about the 5th time I already said I wasn't around during the golden era, and have never once said a bad thing about it.  I have no doubt that the golden age was as great as people say it was for those that experienced it, I never said one word to deny that... and  I did say were that I'm sure it took a lot of skill to be good at many of the games that were out during that time, but if that shows I don't "get" it, then ok.

The funny thing is that the poll is only meant to find out what eras you IDENTIFY with most- pretty much meaning "when were your formative arcade days".  It has nothing to do with arguing which era had the best games, or putting down other games to validate your enjoyment of the ones you played, yet somehow people are finding a way to make it into that.  If anything I would have expected the younger "less mature" players to be the ones twisting it into something like that but I guess that's my fault for trying to correlate age and maturity...

CheffoJeffo:

Did you read what I wrote ?

Havok's list was an example of precisely what I wrote.

So far, you have come across like a kid who discovered video arcades when he found a game he really liked in 1990. That's good, but walking in for the last 20 minutes doesn't qualify you as an expert over those of us who have seen all of the movie.

There are many examples of knowledgeable people who say that SF2 killed the arcade ... there was an article in a magazine for arcade enthusiasts! Like I said, many of them even liked SF2 (I've had one in my game room), but that doesn't change what happened as a result of SF2.

It was great for you, but it wasn't great for the video arcade.

CheffoJeffo:


--- Quote from: manman on May 25, 2010, 05:37:13 pm ---The funny thing is that the poll is only meant to find out what eras you IDENTIFY with most- pretty much meaning "when were your formative arcade days".  It has nothing to do with arguing which era had the best games, or putting down other games to validate your enjoyment of the ones you played, yet somehow people are finding a way to make it into that.  If anything I would have expected the younger "less mature" players to be the ones twisting it into something like that but I guess that's my fault for trying to correlate age and maturity...

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Maybe I missed some posts, but there is nothing in this thread that hasn't been said before and EVERY time somebody points out SF2, someone who hasn't read the previous eleventy discussions on the topic jumps on the bait, freaks out, says a bunch of things that are often wrong when all they need to say is -- "you know what, I really like SF2 and appreciate the subtle differences between versions".

But no, you guys have got to go all genesim on it.

 >:D

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