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opt2not:
I love fighting games. I've been really into them ever since the 90's. My two franchises are Street Fighter II and Soul Edge/Calibur. I've played every Street Fighter since SF1 (fricken hard vs. the cpu!), played all the releases since, and play SSF4 about 3 times a week now. I've played a few tourneys in the last 2 years, not EVO though, can't afford the trip. :(

I'm not going to make some boneheaded statement of what era is better, because that's just pointless and immature. I picked Golden only because it came first in my gaming addiction. It was also the era that began it all and paved the way for every game-play design there is out there. You can't pick up a game now-a-days and not see the rampant influence of the golden age. For that, I had to vote for Golden Age.

Funny enough, I've been working in the game industry for over 10 years now, and most guys I worked with that are 30+ years old can tell of stories on what got them into the industry. A lot of them are from the arcade era of the early to mid-80's and attribute their career path because of playing a game from that time.
Most of the young guys call out SF2 as their major influence (some even siting N64 games,  :o gasp!) ...which makes sense given that was when their childhood was...we all cling to childhood memories.


--- Quote from: kagaden on May 26, 2010, 01:02:00 am ---A "flighty niche market" that's been around for longer than the golden age ever lasted... SFII is almost 20 years old.
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3172939

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Well, if you want to get all defensive and into a pissing contest, then one can argue the golden era has indeed lasted longer. They've released retro games on new tech all throughout the history of SF2, even now! How many versions of Tetris is out there, how many times has it been re-released? Not to mention remake-2.5D-versions of retro games that have quite a following. So technically, the golden era has lasted longer...you can probably thank cell phones and home consoles for keeping it alive.


--- Quote from: kagaden on May 26, 2010, 01:02:00 am ---Guess what gentlemen... while you cling bitterly onto your fond nostalgia for the lost "golden age"... We're still alive, kickin, hosting tournaments, and putting out arcade games.

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You're doing the same by "bitterly clinging to your fond nostalgia for the SF2 era" as well. Golden Age, or Retro, is still alive as well given the fact that people still religiously play retro games today, there are retro-game-tourneys that still happen, even world record attempts are still being made 30 years later. Heck, even a lot of new "indie" games based on old-school game-play are still being developed today.

This statement is also fictitious, aside from a handful of fighting tourneys a year, unless you're living in Akihabara Japan, you're not actually experiencing the same fighty arcade craze that we had in the 90's. Most arcades today definitely carry more DDR/beat-timing games over SF4..


--- Quote from: kagaden on May 26, 2010, 01:02:00 am ---I've stated my opinion and I'm done with this thread. Manman, you have my respect for trying to talk sense into these guys sensibly. Haters gonna hate tho. /shrug

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Haters gonna hate for sure. Visa-versa.
There is no way of arguing a person's preference, let people like/think whatever they want. In the end, what matters is what makes yourself happy.
The only thing you should have got your panties in a bunch from was HanoiBoi's "no skill" comment, which me and manman was fast to refute.


--- Quote from: (+_+) on May 26, 2010, 02:39:21 pm ---I believe we all identify with the Arcade Era that made our own experience tops. For me it was the Golden Age only because I grew up in that era. Because of this I am biased. All 5 senses we're heightened whenever I entered the arcade. It was an amazing and magical time for me as I am sure it was for everybody else who loved going to the arcade as a kid, teenager or adult.

It's funny the way we compare our time slotted experience with one another and expect mutual agreement. Some could argue games were more original back in my day and others could argue the games these days are much cooler. But it's the era that did it for each and every one of us that counts. That microcosm of infinite fun that we refuse to let go of because it defined our childhood and continues to bless us with fond memories.

I know I miss them.

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:applaud: Best, most sense made in this silly thread right here.
DashRendar:
I think there was also a bit of laziness by game developers that lowered the quality of the games.

As was mentioned, there were around 32 variations of Street Fighter (and around 8 variations of Pac-Man, to be fair).

It's similar to what Hollywood has been doing in recent years.  They are remaking old movies or TV shows into movies rather than churning out new material.

The Golden Age was near the beginning of the arcade experience, so most of the games were brand new.  

A lot of the ideas seem silly, but they played great (like Dig Dug, a little astronaut guy digging around pumping air into dragons).

I think game companies started losing their innovation, and instead went with what they considered safe ("well we made a ton of money off Street Fighter, so lets keep milking that cash cow!").

Add the home console market into the equation, and it was a death sentence.  That's not to say there weren't great games, but they spent too much time regurgigating old material.  

The excitement to play "that cool new game" disappeared.
BadMouth:

--- Quote from: DashRendar on May 26, 2010, 03:34:36 pm ---A lot of the ideas seem silly, but they played great (like Dig Dug, a little astronaut guy digging around pumping air into dragons).

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It's been posted before, but here is where the golden age game ideas came from and why they are great:
http://www.cracked.com/video_16019_video-game-pitch-meeting-1979.html

Perhaps if game developers did more drugs nowadays, they'd come up with new crazy ideas nobody in the right state of mind would.
BadMouth:
This debate reminds me of people who think the music released druing their youth must be the absolute best music ever made.

I swore I'd always listen to the newest, cutting edge rock music......unless it became really really whiney.    :-[ DOH!  :banghead:

manman:
I'm not sure where people are getting the idea that either side was ever arguing "my era was better than yours".  I pretty much said the whole time that I thought both eras were great for those who identified most with them, and that one shoudln't need to disparage another game/era to enjoy their own.  I also mentioned how the original thread topic was even 'what do you identify with most' not 'which era is the best'.  And while I did think there was some cutting down of the fighting game genre (mistakenly or not), I don't think they were trying to argue that point either.  It was more about how people percieve the genre/the effect it had on arcade culture.
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