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| DillonFoulds:
What about compressing a "hard" spring, and heating it up with say, a pocket torch? |
| Bender:
--- Quote from: ubiquityman on May 13, 2010, 12:57:27 pm ---The stickiness is main issue I've had with the U360. --- End quote --- weird I have several U360's and I've never had any feel "sticky", wonder if a batch has some bad grease? As far as I know the section is stock JLW |
| kowal:
all stick with hemisphere pivot need lube after 6month on U360 i use shaft from jap ver. JLW-TM8, stick have short throw and work better |
| kagaden:
--- Quote from: Bender on May 13, 2010, 07:51:51 pm --- --- Quote from: ubiquityman on May 13, 2010, 12:57:27 pm ---The stickiness is main issue I've had with the U360. --- End quote --- weird I have several U360's and I've never had any feel "sticky", wonder if a batch has some bad grease? As far as I know the section is stock JLW --- End quote --- Couple of thoughts on this: 1. My sticks get a lot of mashing abuse and are in use about 8 of 24 hours a day. (free play, at work for co-workers) 2. They're installed in a wood control panel and the wood may be lightly dusting? I haven't seen any physical evidence of this though. 3. I've replaced the assembly with stock JLW's already... same "sticky" issue in same amount of time (1 month). 4. The grease helps keep them in playable shape for long periods of time tremendously. Personally, I don't think they're heavily lubed enough for the type of play I've built my cab for. There are other issues I have with the U360's after 5 months of owning them + arcade-like play. They work, and will do the job, but I've had a lot of issues with these sticks. 1. There are some obvious bugs in the software: For example, if you use stickies on your joystick map and the position of the stick is within a sticky, it will not register any button presses as it holds the joystick direction. Wonderful. 2. I've had those silver aluminum pillars get "stuck" in the sanwa assembly and snap off when I've tried to gently loosen with pliers. This joystick is definitely not meant for taking apart and putting back together. I'm afraid of what will break every time I do, especially considering they need re-lubing so often. The silver aluminum pillars can take some abuse on the disc part that rests over the restrictor by heavy joystick movements with a circular restrictor on... the square restrictor seems to protect them a little better. This is what caused the earlier issue of the pillar getting stuck. No more circular restrictors for me. 3. Joystick speed is too slow for fast movements. I don't know if this is a limitation of windows gamepads or the joystick itself, I'm leaning on time to process the magnetic field. I play a hellova lot of fighting games and these sticks are piss poor slow for quick movements like SF3:3s... which to be honest is probably the most demanding game you can put a joystick through. Still, an ipac/jpac feels a ton more accurate than the U360 playing this game. They are okay for slower fighting games like SFII or more input lenient ones like SFIV. 4. Deadzone and mapping doesn't feel very accurate. The stock default on the sticks have almost no deadzone, in any mode... with or without restrictors. It sucks, and doesn't feel very arcade authentic at all where you have to travel a bit of distance before you hit a microswitch. I've tried extending my deadzone in mapping and it doesn't appear to extend it very far at all... or I go another square around and go way too far so I'm no longer getting certain directions what-so-ever. While I'd like to think of the joystick mapping as equal segments, my experience is far from the case. I found something that works out "ok" but it took a lot of tinkering and still isn't quite what I was expecting. Suffice to say while I loved the idea of a mappable, switchless, joystick with a built in encoder... I was disappointed with them over my old P360's overall... and kinda regretting un-jamma'ing my cab thinking they'd be simpler and perfect. I'm now considering removing them and re-wiring/installing new P360's + ipac. |
| kagaden:
--- Quote from: ubiquityman on May 13, 2010, 12:57:27 pm ---I did the same thing. Silicon lubricant on the ball & socket. Also, increasing the dead zone in MAME is another solution. The stickiness is main issue I've had with the U360. --- End quote --- I tried Teflon silicon lubricant the first time... it lasted about a month like the stock lube. Which is probably why it sounds like a recurring problem for you. :banghead: |
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