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Xiaou2:
i Disagree. I hate IE. Its bloated.. filled with useless crap, like most m$ software.
Its horribly configured controls, take up nearly 2.5" of real estate.
Firefox can be completely tweaked by the user in seconds. Move any button or
control. Use an add on like "Tiny Menu", move the controls to the top level, disable the
navigation tab, and you can make the controls just an inch... giving you so much more
viewing space.
Firefox is constantly updated... unlike IE, which is only released like every year.
IE also needs about a gig of patches every so often, cluttering and slowing your new
pc to a crawl with extra useless processes, useless features you never will use,
malware scanners which dont work, and much more.
AtomSmasher:
Real men use Opera. :afro:
Howard_Casto:
--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on May 07, 2010, 07:59:28 pm ---i Disagree. I hate IE. Its bloated.. filled with useless crap, like most m$ software.
Its horribly configured controls, take up nearly 2.5" of real estate.
Firefox can be completely tweaked by the user in seconds. Move any button or
control. Use an add on like "Tiny Menu", move the controls to the top level, disable the
navigation tab, and you can make the controls just an inch... giving you so much more
viewing space.
Firefox is constantly updated... unlike IE, which is only released like every year.
IE also needs about a gig of patches every so often, cluttering and slowing your new
pc to a crawl with extra useless processes, useless features you never will use,
malware scanners which dont work, and much more.
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ugh... I hate breaking it down...
First paragraph... all wrong... ie hasn't been like that since about 5.0... sounds like you haven't used ie in a while.
Second paragraph.... you can do that in ie as well.... just takes a sec or two.
Third paragraph... you are contradicitng yourself. If ie is never updated then how can it constantly be patched? Oh you mean adding features that nobody wants.... well you have me there, other browsers do that a lot more often. All I need is a favorites bar and maybe some tabs but that's just me.... and most of the free world. ;) The constant patching... btw is to keep your pc virus free. They don't add ANY extra processes or features. Now some of the optional ie updates add features, but those are ..... you know, optional. There aren't any anti-malware or other usless programs installed either.... there's only inprivate filtering and smartscreen. Both are an optional install and can easily be turned on and off. The only thing they do is check code before it runs for attacks and check a url against a list of known websites on a location change. So they don't slow down the browser or hog resources in any way. As a matter of fact, for the upteenth year running ie is still the fastest browser on the pc.
Now you can call office or visual studio bloated, but ie, especially ie8 is a lean, mean fighting machine. As a matter of fact it's far less bloated than most other browsers. Seriously.... uses less resources. Also you need to keep in mind that firefox/opera/whatever users are generally kind of nerdy so they install 30 stupid plugins, slowing things down even more.
I don't dislike other browsers at all, because that doesn't make sense.... they are all essentially the same, but disliking ie can't logically be justified.
If anything ie has one thing going for it that the others don't that makes it superior....... it's already installed on your pc, so no time is wasted insallign software. It auto-updates with win update, so no time is wasted upgrading, and starting with win vista when you buy a new pc you can automatically transfer ie settings via the settings transfer wizard, so you'll never have to setup a browser again.
That, quite frankly is why myself and most of the world use ie. Why download something to your computer when you already have an app pre-installed that does the same thing?
Ginsu Victim:
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on May 08, 2010, 05:13:34 am ---Why download something to your computer when you already have an app pre-installed that does the same thing?
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Because I still prefer Firefox.
MKFan4Life:
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on May 08, 2010, 05:13:34 am ---If anything ie has one thing going for it that the others don't that makes it superior....... it's already installed on your pc, so no time is wasted insallign software. It auto-updates with win update, so no time is wasted upgrading, and starting with win vista when you buy a new pc you can automatically transfer ie settings via the settings transfer wizard, so you'll never have to setup a browser again.
That, quite frankly is why myself and most of the world use ie. Why download something to your computer when you already have an app pre-installed that does the same thing?
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Well, I first switched to Firefox for the tabbed browsing a long time ago when IE didn't have it. When IE first had it, you had to have that MSN toolbar installed to use tabbed browsing. (I HATE toolbars!) I am sure now almost all browsers have this option (and Firefox wasn't the first, but it became popular partly because of this feature). So, since I came to really like Firefox, I've continued using it although IE is on my pc.
But, to point out a contradiction of yours, auto-updating is still basically "downloading" data to your pc to patch your IE. So having to download Firefox is no big negative. And don't you have to sometimes either restart your pc after a MAJOR update was applied or doesn't the FOLLOWING startup take a little longer to apply the updates? Given todays fast computers and internet connections, these things wouldn't take a LOT of time, but it's still something some people would bring up. I, for one, NEVER turn on AUTO-UPDATE on ANY computer. This is partly due to me being on a Verizon wireless account (less bandwidth than cable or DSL) and partly because I have found updates to many times cause as much harm as they claim to remedy, no matter WHAT they want to tell you. Lots of times I have known people to have to restore back to a time BEFORE an update to fix a NEW problem that magically showed up AFTER installing recommended updates.
So, basically, it's whatever the user likes in the end. Also, from the reviews I've read, any speed differences rendering pages is usually measured in milliseconds, so it's not that noticeable.
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