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Duke Nukem Forever video (NSFW language)
NiN^_^NiN:
Whats interesting is now US gets it after the international release where US were the first to get it.
Howard_Casto:
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--- Quote from: Hoopz on January 22, 2011, 08:23:43 am ---I would say that sounds like a customer title but the last time I said that, Saint showed his sense of humor.
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You're a trouble maker (and an inspiration for birth control!)
srsly though, sooooo many great one liners in that game.
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Personally I never found Duke to be funny or even clever. If ripping-off on liners of far more personable and memorable characters several years after the fact and spewing them out at random is considered funny then I'm the frikkin funniest guy I know. I always saw duke as a lame doom with strippers. Because of the strippers and the fact that most doom fans were teenagers... duke sold well. ;)
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Do you like anything that ISNT Nintendo related?! Jesus. Duke was great because it was TRYING to be cheesy and it pulled it off. The developers even said that he was a combo of John Wayne, Clist Eastwood, and Arnold. The jetpack was great, like hoopz mentioned, it made deathmatch not so boring or repetitive. I used to like setting traps with the pipebombs. The whole dynamic was great. I cant wait for this to come out, the trailer had me sold. Duke sold well because it was an awesome game. It had a bunch of pop culture references too. My favorite was when you had to crawl in the conveyor and you saw the terminator skeleton and duke was like "whoa terminated". Doom is so damn overrated anyway. Did the dude from doom even have a name?
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I didn't even see this. :)
50% of the games I own are on the 360 and not the wii. I like the 360. I like many games on the 360. I like many pc games as well. I'm anti-sony if that's what you mean, simply because I can coun't the games that I like that were sony exclusives on my one hand. Mind you I prefer the wii games, but that's just because nintendo's first party titles are superior to anything else.
See the problem here is a difference of opinion. I am aware Duke was supposed to be cheesy. It did NOT succeed though. It's "humor" fell flat on the floor 90% of the time. Doom is Duke's father, no Duke without doom.. no fps without doom and therefore doom can NEVER be overrated. The Duke's multiplayer had it's moments, I'll give you that. The problem is in those days if you played online you were on dialup. Dialup sucks and therefore online multiplayer, at least at the time, was fairly irrelevant.
Malenko:
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on March 25, 2011, 01:16:04 am ---See the problem here is a difference of opinion. I am aware Duke was supposed to be cheesy. It did NOT succeed though. It's "humor" fell flat on the floor 90% of the time. Doom is Duke's father, no Duke without doom.. no fps without doom and therefore doom can NEVER be overrated.
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Yeah no one liked duke*, its not like they sold a ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- ton of games, made expansion packs, some PSX sequels,etc. Glad you brought up doom, cause ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---, there wouldnt be a Wolfenstein 3D without DooM. All joking aside, I think Quake is really started moving the FPS genre. 3D environments and 3D enemies, instead of flat 2D (cardboard standee) enemies
*It was named #37 overall among the "150 Best Games of All Time" by Computer Gaming World Magazine (15th Anniversary Issue--November 1996);
It was voted #13 overall in PCGamer Magazine's Readers All-Time Top 50 Games Poll (April 2000 issue);
The editors of PC Gamer ranked it #12 in the Top 50 Games of all time, in their October 2001 issue, citing the game's humor and pop-culture references;
It was ranked #15 in the 50 Best Games of All Time list published by PC Gamer Magazine in its April 2005 issue.
Hoopz:
Duke didn't fall flat on the humor. Each episode was littered with a variety of humorous items. Just because you didn't like it, doesn't mean that it failed 90% of the time.
And dialup in the mid to late 90s was not terrible for gaming on-line. It wasn't broadband but games were optimized for online play. Hell, I remember getting the Quake Test and playing online. Duke was fun online as was Quake. Why even bring Doom into the equation? If you want to compare apples to oranges, then you can also say that Duke's levels were much more interactive than Doom/Quake, the variety was much better, and the weapons absolutely put id's to shame.
Then you can also say that the graphics in Quake were much better than in Duke and that id's dedicated servers were better than playing Duke online thru Heat.
Each generation of games have the best ever. Doom was revolutionary but so was Zork. Half-Life was head and shoulders above _____ (Fill in the blank with whatever game). COD is 150000% better than X game. Whatever.
Mikezilla:
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on March 25, 2011, 01:16:04 am ---
--- Quote from: Mikezilla on January 26, 2011, 05:33:57 pm ---
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on January 23, 2011, 02:04:47 am ---
--- Quote from: Malenko on January 22, 2011, 08:45:53 am ---
--- Quote from: Hoopz on January 22, 2011, 08:23:43 am ---I would say that sounds like a customer title but the last time I said that, Saint showed his sense of humor.
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You're a trouble maker (and an inspiration for birth control!)
srsly though, sooooo many great one liners in that game.
--- End quote ---
Personally I never found Duke to be funny or even clever. If ripping-off on liners of far more personable and memorable characters several years after the fact and spewing them out at random is considered funny then I'm the frikkin funniest guy I know. I always saw duke as a lame doom with strippers. Because of the strippers and the fact that most doom fans were teenagers... duke sold well. ;)
--- End quote ---
Do you like anything that ISNT Nintendo related?! Jesus. Duke was great because it was TRYING to be cheesy and it pulled it off. The developers even said that he was a combo of John Wayne, Clist Eastwood, and Arnold. The jetpack was great, like hoopz mentioned, it made deathmatch not so boring or repetitive. I used to like setting traps with the pipebombs. The whole dynamic was great. I cant wait for this to come out, the trailer had me sold. Duke sold well because it was an awesome game. It had a bunch of pop culture references too. My favorite was when you had to crawl in the conveyor and you saw the terminator skeleton and duke was like "whoa terminated". Doom is so damn overrated anyway. Did the dude from doom even have a name?
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I didn't even see this. :)
50% of the games I own are on the 360 and not the wii. I like the 360. I like many games on the 360. I like many pc games as well. I'm anti-sony if that's what you mean, simply because I can coun't the games that I like that were sony exclusives on my one hand. Mind you I prefer the wii games, but that's just because nintendo's first party titles are superior to anything else.
See the problem here is a difference of opinion. I am aware Duke was supposed to be cheesy. It did NOT succeed though. It's "humor" fell flat on the floor 90% of the time. Doom is Duke's father, no Duke without doom.. no fps without doom and therefore doom can NEVER be overrated. The Duke's multiplayer had it's moments, I'll give you that. The problem is in those days if you played online you were on dialup. Dialup sucks and therefore online multiplayer, at least at the time, was fairly irrelevant.
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I forgot about this. :)
Youre right, it IS a difference of opinion, but you just THOUGHT it didnt succeed, when cleary, it did. Maybe you just didnt get the humor, or maybe youre one of those weird computer people that dont think anything is funny because youre too smart. Or youre super dry, when obviously that type of humor doesnt work. Look at all the accolades Malenko posted in his post. Where is Doom now? Is it still relevant today? I only played as far as Doom 2 on the PC, but I remember when Doom 3 came out it was lackluster at best. Everyone whined that the graphics were too intensive, and that was about it. Just because dialup sucks doesnt mean the multiplayer sucks. You didnt even NEED high bandwidth for that game, thats the beauty of it. Besides, it was only deathmatch against 1 other person I believe, thats how my friend and I played anyway. Hell, the main reason that game had awesome replay value was because of the multiplayer. We are in an arcade forum, I dont believe the need for any kind of connectivity will count that much in sense of "multiplayer" anyway. ;) I agree with the notion that Quake was the game that truly ushered in the 3d FPS.
I totally agree with everything Hoopz just said as I was writing this post. Oh, and Duke could aim up and down. And Duke has a name, and its a helluva lot better than "The Rock". ;)
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