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Annual job review today: When is it OK to speak up about being underpaid?

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AtomSmasher:

--- Quote from: pinballjim on March 18, 2010, 12:18:37 pm ---The way to speak up is to find another job while you're still working there.


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Thats basically my plan, although I did speak up a month or so ago and asked for a raise, but I got denied (I was told soon...which is what they've been telling me for about 6 months now).  Last week they announced their first round of layoffs which I survived, but it looks like there will be another round in a month or two and I don't feel like sticking around to find out.  Currently my best bet is a boring job with the County, which would actually be a good thing since it's pays 50% more, has full benefits, and 30 min shorter commute (so an hour round trip less driving).  The problem is the County takes forever to do anything, so it's another 3 weeks until my second interview with them.  The nice thing is I got an actual score from my first interview, and I think a 95/100 makes the odds pretty high that I'll get it.

javeryh:
Ugh.  It is definitely depressing.  My review is any minute now...  I should also add that I make LESS now in 2010 than I did in 2006 when I started here.  It just doesn't seem right.  This place is (supposedly) doing very well but these cuts are across the board for everyone.  I don't know.

Dartful Dodger:
This might be too little too late, but are you busy at work?

If you're doing a lot of work and they are cutting your pay so the guys that aren't working can keep their job then you have something to speak up about.  If you are doing 18% less work then losing 15% of your pay means you are actually getting a 3% raise.

my company always seems to slow down at the end of year, which is when we get our reviews.  It's hard to say I deserve more when I spend 1/4 of day on the arcade controls message board.

Fordman:
My wife had once worked in an office that when the office manager was allowed to give pay raises of say 3% to all of the employees, what he did was be creative for himself. He gave 2% to each employee, but kept the whole office's other 1% for himself on top of what he was supposed to get. This had been going on for years until he hired his daughter and he was giving raises again, gave his daughter the full amount, but everyone else got the screwjob. His daughter blabbed to everyone else that she had gotten the full amount, not knowing that everyone else was getting screwed. All the office employees made a complaint to corporate, they did their 'internal investigation' and found that the manager did 'no wrong'. The employees then contacted the Service Employees International Union, the company convinced the workers not to join, gave them their correct raises with interest and fired the office manager. A year later, they joined the SEIU anyway because the company said they had put a 5 year wage freeze on their office because of the previous wage bump and interest. After joining the SEIU, they didnt get a money in pocket wage increase, but they did have their health coverage fully paid and 6 paid personal days a year.

Fordman

javeryh:
Wow that's a crazy story Fordman.

yeah, I'm busy at work.  I generally work from 8:30 - 7 (year round, no vacations) but it is not unusual for me to be in the office until 10pm or later.  I carry a blackberry and work weekends, etc.  Since I'm salaried, the actual hours don't matter as much.  They did almost exactly what I thought they were going to do - no raise but now I can receive a "bonus" next March which would make the total compensation equal to what I was making before the first 15% cut - if I'm still employed here.  Big if since they are letting people go left and right.  I'm not happy. 

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