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Annual job review today: When is it OK to speak up about being underpaid?

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shardian:
I hate corporate America too. I'm ready to get a Union job so I don't have to wonder how bad I'm getting screwed in pay. I'm unemployed right now...and I'm loving it! I soooooooo hated my job. We're pretty financially prepared for something like this, so I'm not worried about money for quite a while. My company also had an ESOP, and I'll be collecting that big hunk of cash this summer. That's like free money.

So for now I'm working on games to sell and doing long delayed home projects since I worked too much. Since I'm at a career crossroads anyway, I am applying to the special teacher transition program to be a middle/high school math/physics teacher. Full time teacher job right out of the gate, full tuition payed, and a free laptop to do the coursework on. It's a paycut from what I could make at another engineering job, but the thought of working 7-5 + a long commute and being made to feel guilty to take a vacation just makes my stomach turn. I want that teacher's schedule REAL bad. The program director already told me there would be no problem getting in. Besides, teaching is something I've always wanted to do. I didn't do it in college because I was convinced only losers go the teaching route. Of course those same convincing people also told me I'd be driving sports cars and living in mansions going the engineer route...I should have had a clue when I noticed the Engineers at the Corps of Engineers drove ---smurfy--- cars!!!

In the meantime, I have to apply to at least one ---smurfy--- engineering job a week for unemplyment...

Loafmeister:

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--- Quote from: javeryh on March 18, 2010, 03:18:19 pm ---yeah, I'm busy at work.  I generally work from 8:30 - 7 (year round, no vacations) but it is not unusual for me to be in the office until 10pm or later.  I carry a blackberry and work weekends, etc.  Since I'm salaried, the actual hours don't matter as much.  
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Yeah mean, the hours DO matter much. If you're on salary and not getting overtime, not getting vacation time (aren't there laws against that?) then yeah, you DO have to care about the hours. Divide your salary up by the ACTUALY time you put in and figure out your ACTUAL hourly rate. You might just be insulted enough to wake you up and get off your butt and find another job or at least stop bending over for them. sheesh.


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You beat me to it.  What 3rd world country do you live in Javeryh?  In Canada, the company has to give you at least your 4% (equates to 2 weeks vacation per year, it's the friggin law!  Let me know where you live so I know where not to move to... ever!

I'm sorry to hear of the situation you're in. The cutbacks & pay cuts are one thing, but around here, crazy hours can happen, but there is acceptable recompensation and at the very least, that 2 weeks vacation turns into a "pay increase", with you in on the decision making process.

I assume there might be exceptions but glad I'm living in Canada and typically this isn't the norm and the labour board has had some say (well, maybe I'm ignorant? Anyone?).

edit: corrected awful grammar!

shmokes:
In France every employee gets at least 5 weeks paid vacation per year.  Whether you're a in senior management at a giant advertising firm or flipping burgers part time at McDonalds you get at least 5 weeks paid vacation.  It's the law.

drventure:
I remember reading about how computers were going to make it so that the standard workday was 10-4 :laugh2:

patrickl:

--- Quote from: drventure on March 20, 2010, 06:03:35 pm ---I remember reading about how computers were going to make it so that the standard workday was 10-4 :laugh2:



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Well, people used to work 6 days a week and 10 hours a day before. We're down to almost half of that now.

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