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Annual job review today: When is it OK to speak up about being underpaid?

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Epyx:

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I was going to say...the biggest raises I ever got myself have been through a new job...its sad but what happens in many companies is that they tend to pigeon hole you into a role and don't have the vision to see you beyond that. 

I generally stay at a job 3 to 5 years...enough for experience and to not seem like a job hopper...but in my Industry (IT) 3 to 5 years is plenty.  Every job hop has seen at least 15 - 20% increase in pay...compared to the measly annuals you tend to get staying at a place.

I don't have an issue with this because unlike my father's generation...I work to live...I don't live to work.  I take pride in my work...but also in my take home pay.  As a final note...the job hopping also helps with that all important benefits/perks negotiation. It is *usually* much easier to negotiate up front than during an annual review when they feel they already have you by the short and curly's.

fatfingers:

--- Quote from: JeepMonkey on March 19, 2010, 05:14:28 pm ---I couldn't imagine working in an environment like that.

I work for an employee owned engineering and construction firm with 3000 employees.  Just about all of our profit at the end of the year is given back in bonuses (immediate) or stock and cash (retirement).  And the bonus are disptributed well, not all at the top with a few crumbs for the regular folk.

Reviews are with your supervisor directly.  Everything is based on a 1 - 5 point scale and all scores are discussed individually.

This is the only company I have known, so to hear companies acting like yours just sounds terrible.

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Consider your job situation very fortunate.

Dartful Dodger:
I have to track my hours too.

Right now I'm tracking this under web design for a store chain.

In an hour I'll be tracking me taking a dump under video editing for an educational documentary.

RayB:

--- Quote from: javeryh on March 18, 2010, 03:18:19 pm ---yeah, I'm busy at work.  I generally work from 8:30 - 7 (year round, no vacations) but it is not unusual for me to be in the office until 10pm or later.  I carry a blackberry and work weekends, etc.  Since I'm salaried, the actual hours don't matter as much.  
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You mean the hours DO matter much. If you're on salary and not getting overtime, not getting vacation time (aren't there laws against that?) then yeah, you DO have to care about the hours. Divide your salary up by the ACTUALY time you put in and figure out your ACTUAL hourly rate. You might just be insulted enough to wake you up and get off your butt and find another job or at least stop bending over for them. sheesh.

ark_ader:
Offer your employer a 17% cut in pay, and advise them you do this for the company and understand their situation.

When things get better your employer will remember your selfless act and reward you.

You will not see the pay cut in your salary, if you do just stay away from buying cabs for a year.  :cheers:

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