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Annual job review today: When is it OK to speak up about being underpaid?

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Dartful Dodger:
Sorry about the review.

You're meeting was short.  With my company, the worse the outcome of the review the longer the review is.

They go through a long song and dance about how they appreciate the work I do but the company can't afford any increase in pay... blah blah blah.  If they’re giving me a good raise they just came out and told me and the meeting ends with everybody smiling.

I've been lucky the last two reviews(out of 8) have been good, but I'm worried about next year’s.

Right now I'm just grateful to be employed.

fatfingers:

A good friend once told me "It's your bosses job to pay you as little as possible and still keep you at your job".  The longer I'm around, the more this seems true.  My company has been freezing pay for the last 2 years.  CEO: $1 million bonus.  Bonus.  Yes, on top of his already insane salary.  All the while laying people off left and right.

Still, I feel lucky to have my job even though I basically hate it.  Last year's review for me: "you're doing a great job, keep it up".  Then, I find out I was rated like a 2.2 out of a 5?  Great job?  WTF?  I hate corporate America.

drventure:

--- Quote ---The nice thing is I got an actual score from my first interview
--- End quote ---

That's very unusual, but I wish more places would do something like that. Thing is, i'd imagine no one would want to put anything sharply negative in such a review (under possibility of suites etc), so I wonder how useful they really would be.

Dang, working 8:30 to 10 regularly  :dizzy: ?

Ouch, your actual hourly wage drops precipitously in situations like that. I always add in commute time as well. I've worked for many companies that are totally fine with paying you for travel time when you fly to a client and have to stay over, but that 1.5 hours or more of commute every day, just so you can "be in the office"? And what the heck happened to 9-5 anyway. Now, it's "8 hour+ work day, and lunches don't count".

Sorry, stepping down from the  :soapbox:

Don't know what the job market is where you are, but seriously, I'd be hitting the job boards hard and relentlessly till I came up with something else. There's better out there. Hmm, actually, that's what I AM doing....

javeryh:
I'm starting the job hunt today.  If I decide to commute to the city (assuming I can find a job there) I'd be looking at a minimum of 50% increase in pay.  I left the city a few years ago because I hated the commute (I took a pay cut) but the money has become too large to ignore now.  Since I left salaries have increased by a LOT there but I haven't gotten jack ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- in 4 years - not even enough to keep up with inflation and not one single bonus yet "I'm doing great and everyone likes me".  It's crap and they know it.

It is totally true about how they want to pay you as little as possible and still keep you at your job.  I mean, I've been told that it's our job to charge our clients exactly $1 less than the amount that would cause them to complain or go to someone else.  It's the same concept.

AtomSmasher:

--- Quote from: drventure on March 19, 2010, 08:23:47 am ---
--- Quote ---The nice thing is I got an actual score from my first interview
--- End quote ---

That's very unusual, but I wish more places would do something like that. Thing is, i'd imagine no one would want to put anything sharply negative in such a review (under possibility of suites etc), so I wonder how useful they really would be.

--- End quote ---
I didn't get any comments or real feedback about the interview, only a number which basically just lets me know that the interview did go as well as I thought it did.  The score also places me into "tier 1" and I believe when they do second interviews they first call back everyone from tier 1, then if they decide theres no one there they want, they call in tier 2, etc.

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