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Re: I am now a blackbelt!
northerngames:
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Ive seen that pathetic crap. A bunch of armatures fighting under rules that
favor ground fighters. Its bad enough the ease of getting a Blackbelt in these
modern days (no offense Saint. Everywhere is different, and so are the times)
But people who entered were usually the kind of people who fought for points...
and or were not as skilled as they would have you believe. A Chef does not
walk into a fast-food cooking competition... where he is limited to using
sub-standard ingredients and limitations. Such a thing would tarnish his
reputation, and strongly reduce his chances of winning anyways. It would not
represent him, and what he has learned, properly at all.
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you have that backwards how do you figure the ground fighter's are favored when the majority of illegal blows are on ground but are still legal blow's while standing..
your allowed more strike's standing then on the ground your knee's and elbow's are limited on the ground with rules where there still perfectly legal while standing.
that's why some of the gracie's left ufc & mma becuase they banned alot of their move's like the diggin in the oppenents kidney's with their heels while on the bottom to get the top man off or wiggle into something they can work with position wise.
they also banned the downed elbow on the ground and shot's to the back of the head however you can still do a downed elbow while standing though.
stand up there is no back of the head blows no biting no eye gouging and no kicking in the nuts or choking with the thumbs other then that everything goes and those same exact rules still apply to the ground fighter also but there is still alot more rules for illegal blows on the ground that are allowed while staning up.
if anything the standup fighter's have less rule's to go by a long shot.
as for the hollywood pictures that's hollywood for ya. Who's to say just out of frame on the right is a trampoline or ledge or perhaps there was one in that actual frame but was editied & removed to make it look like he was 7 feet in the air just like when he leaped up 30ft in the tree when the gaurds come near him in enter the dragon "THE MOVIE".
I could jump on a baby elephant's back also if I had one big deal.
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Xiaou2:
--- Quote ---you have that backwards how do you figure the ground fighter's are favored when the majority of illegal blows are on ground but are still legal blow's while standing..
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The initial UFC thing was set up to favor ground fighters, and make them
Look superior. Most standup fighters were not prepared for a ground fight...because
in reality... the ground is the WORST place you want to be in Real fight.
If you even survive the sharp pavement and gravel... You have to realize that
while you are messing with the guy - others may be running in with a beer
bottle to your head, or worse... a weapon.
It also takes far more skill to remain standing unharmed in a fight, than it does
to push a person to the ground. And being that the ground fighters knew that it
was a surprise, as well as many fighters not having the ability to disable them
properly... is just a mess. A false victory, and an utter Disgracie.
In fact, the typical entry method was one of extreme danger to the person
entering. In a real fight... trying to dive in on someone could get you permanently
crippled. And when on the ground, Half of what those guys do is Ludicrous.
The first thing I might do, is to grab the guys berries and squeeze till he pops off
me. Yet, you watch the fighters in 69 positions unharmed... claiming that typical
traditional martial artists are crap!?! You cant make up rules that dont apply
to real martial protection, and call yourself the ULTIMATE FIGHTER!
Real Fighters train for Real events. These are the men you Dont want to hit you,
and dont want to mess with. They are the ones you hire as body guards.
Not some sterioded MMA guy who can barely handle One fighter... let alone
multiples. Heck, they can barely throw a technique without falling down.
--- Quote ---your allowed more strike's standing then on the ground your knee's and elbow's are limited on the ground with rules where there still perfectly legal while standing.
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Until when? When the fighters actually learn how to fight well?! Trust me,
if that day ever happens... more and more rules will be put in place.
Theoretically, IF I had decided to enter, started Knocking out every fighter
in 2 seconds... they would lose their ratings. It wouldnt be long before the other
fighters learned Fajin to keep up... and then every fighter would be unleashing
massive damages. They would have to make the gloves huge and super-absorbing
to limit the damages... and further degrade the combat to a kickboxing level.
The thing is... Somehow people actually believe these guys are advancing
the science of combat! Its unbelievable. They are barely understanding of even
the Basics of things created thousands of years ago... and are not ever mastering
them whatsoever. They are pretty much a disgrace to the arts... and
frankly, they are a danger to people losing the ability to Really know how to
protect themselves.
--- Quote ---that's why some of the gracie's left ufc & mma becuase they banned alot of their move's like the diggin in the oppenents kidney's with their heels while on the bottom to get the top man off or wiggle into something they can work with position wise.
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The gracies are pretty much egotistical lowlife dirtbags. Its not surprising
that when their magic show was revealed, they ran for cover.
But the mess that is mostly their fault, is now something that they cant even
tolerate. That is Hilarious! :laugh2:
--- Quote ---stand up there is no back of the head blows no biting no eye gouging and no kicking in the nuts or choking with the thumbs other then that everything goes
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Actually, technically, there are a LOT more rules than you listed. Small joint manipulations spring to mind. But there is much more. AND if there were really
good fighters in there... that list would grow even larger.
--- Quote ---as for the hollywood pictures that's hollywood for ya. Who's to say just out of frame on the right is a trampoline or ledge or perhaps there was one in that actual frame but was editied & removed to make it look like he was 7 feet in the air just like when he leaped up 30ft in the tree when the gaurds come near him in enter the dragon "THE MOVIE".
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I dont recall him jumping UP 30ft. Maybe Down 30ft. Ill have to look it over.
I can post videos of Shaolin and Wushu guys doing the same thing, without
trampolines. With digging, you can find out if Lees flying kick and high kick
were real. There were plenty of witnesses.
Its not to say that those moves were things you should use in real combat.
In fact, they are dangerous. However, in general, Lee was a person who wanted
to show exactly what was possible, and what he could get away with.
Point being... Lee had not only developed extreme levels of power in his
techniques... But he also had the skills, muscles, flexibility... to do the most
extreme and acrobatic of movements. Todays TV fighters barely can kick...
and Lee could not only kick with enough power to end a fight... but also
to do things in the pics posted.
--- Quote ---I could jump on a baby elephant's back also if I had one big deal.
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If you had read it correctly, the elephants grew to adult height as he grew from
child to man. Meaning, he could land a jump onto a full grown elephant.
DillonFoulds:
--- Quote from: northerngames on March 12, 2010, 02:13:22 am ---no matter how hard you polish a terd you still end up with ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---
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MythBusters polished dung.
Xiaou2:
northerngames:
I don't recall tai clench's on any guy's nuts in any martial art's tournments either.
that's like saying you grab my nuts and I can bite your cheek off type thing or poke your eye.
smalle lock's like the toe lock tank abbott got beat by recently are still allowed ;)
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