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The Whole Toyota Debacle.......Your Thoughts.
Vanguard:
Before I would buy another Honda, I would do a quick search for known issues with the model/year vehicle. If there were known problems, then I'd either buy a different brand or same brand but different vehicle. I would not buy a Honda with a known defect.
These types of fundamental flaws tend to happen when a particular badge (Odyssey in this case) is redesigned/refreshed. I've always heard not to buy a new model vehicle the first year it comes out. Honda seems to redesign models every 3-5 years and most of the kinks get worked out in the first year. That is what the warranty is for. Unfortunately sometimes, problems are such that they don't arise until after the warranty period and so far Honda has been very accommodating with these issues.
We had an Accord at one time and got a letter from Honda stating that some people are having transmission problems when shifting from reverse to forward without coming to a complete stop (which sounds like a bad idea to me). Honda said due to these problem, they were extending our transmission warranty and additional 10 YEARS!!!
I never once had a problem with the transmission in that vehicle so it never effected me. The fact that they did it though was very comforting.
I could just as easily buy any other brand and run into these same issues. The one thing I do know is that if it were an American brand and I was out of warranty, I'd be footing the bill.
Fordman:
--- Quote from: Vanguard on March 05, 2010, 01:18:13 pm ---We had an Accord at one time and got a letter from Honda stating that some people are having transmission problems when shifting from reverse to forward without coming to a complete stop (which sounds like a bad idea to me). Honda said due to these problem, they were extending our transmission warranty and additional 10 YEARS!!!
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Sounds like Honda did the right thing then rather than face a public relations nightmare. They have have gotten so many complaints that instead of issuing a recall or brand wide fix, they fixed them voluntarily on a case by case basis. I just wonder how many people had their Oddysey's fixed at a third party shop and didnt know about the free fix they were giving away? Also it goes back to software not letting the valvebody switch the gears. You cant just throw a post 1998 transmission into park at full speed anymore (give it a try if you want to, but I wouldnt recommend it). Although it shouldnt shift into park or reverse at a speed above 3mph software at that time wasnt as good as it is now and was still relativly new to the industry.
Now the old transmissions, you throw that baby into reverse at 100mph, guess where that trans will be? Probably all over the ground and up into the drivers seat next to you!
Fordman
HaRuMaN:
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Vanguard:
--- Quote from: Fordman on March 05, 2010, 01:27:06 pm ---
--- Quote from: Vanguard on March 05, 2010, 01:18:13 pm ---We had an Accord at one time and got a letter from Honda stating that some people are having transmission problems when shifting from reverse to forward without coming to a complete stop (which sounds like a bad idea to me). Honda said due to these problem, they were extending our transmission warranty and additional 10 YEARS!!!
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Sounds like Honda did the right thing then rather than face a public relations nightmare. They have have gotten so many complaints that instead of issuing a recall or brand wide fix, they fixed them voluntarily on a case by case basis. I just wonder how many people had their Oddysey's fixed at a third party shop and didnt know about the free fix they were giving away? Also it goes back to software not letting the valvebody switch the gears. You cant just throw a post 1998 transmission into park at full speed anymore (give it a try if you want to, but I wouldnt recommend it). Although it shouldnt shift into park or reverse at a speed above 3mph software at that time wasnt as good as it is now and was still relativly new to the industry.
Now the old transmissions, you throw that baby into reverse at 100mph, guess where that trans will be? Probably all over the ground and up into the drivers seat next to you!
Fordman
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The shifting from reverse to forward was a problem with the Accord. There actually was a recall for the Odyssey transmission. The Odyssey transmission had a different issue with the 2nd gear breaking down and clogging up the oil lines and thus starving the transmission for cooling. Honda initially did a recall and added a second cooling jet that sprayed oil directly on the gear that was breaking down.
Here is the recall: http://world.honda.com/news/2004/printerfriendly/4040414.html
We had the recall done but several years later, the transmission still failed (2 years out of warranty). That's when Honda stepped up and took care of us.
Hoopz:
--- Quote from: HarumaN on March 05, 2010, 01:28:13 pm --- ::)
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